Fan clutch

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Offline AMXguy

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Fan clutch
« on: May 28, 2010 - 08:43:58 PM »
I'm going to put an original mopar clutch style fan on, I'm going to buy a new clutch so do I want a thermal or non thermal one?
 
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1970 R/T SE Challenger
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2010 - 09:04:49 PM »
Thermal, wax impregnated coupler was what the factory used.

1970 PN2806070
1971 PN3462112

Both of these had the short shaft so the fans would sit correctly into the fan shroud.

If you go OEM, you should look into getting it re built. However, it could take up to a year till you get it back. Ask for Fred.

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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2010 - 09:51:13 AM »
Thanks, I always thought all clutches were thermal I didn't know there was a choice.

 If they're not controled by temp what would control them anyway?
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010 - 09:59:30 AM »
There are only 3 kinds I know of.

Thermal: engauges once wax pellet inside reaches a certain temp.
Fixed: Directly bolted to pulley. Works at any temp.
Electric: Comes on once temp sensor activates relay to turn it on.
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010 - 10:02:00 AM »
From  http://www.haydenauto.com/Featured%20Products-Fan%20Clutches%20and%20Fan%20Blades/Content.aspx



   Non-Thermal Fan Clutch

    * Low cost alternative for some standard thermal clutches.
    * Always engaged, less fuel savings than a thermal clutch.
    * Spins at about 30-60% of the water pump speed.
    * Shorter life expectancy.
    * Cannot replace a heavy-duty clutch.
    * Identified by the smooth, steel faceplate, (without a thermal spring assembly), on the front.

Thermal Fan Clutch

    * Varies the fan speed with temperature of the air behind the radiator.
    * Engaged (high speed) operation provides maximum cooling.
    * Disengaged (low speed) operation provides fuel savings and noise reduction.
    * Greater life expectancy than a non-thermal clutch.
    * Briefly engaged at cold start-up.
    * Engages at about 170° radiator air temperature, (about 30° lower than coolant temperature).
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010 - 10:09:40 AM »
NAPA cross reference for 2806070 & 3462112

      
Fan Clutch - Thermostatic
Product Line:   NAPA Temp Products
Part Number:       TEM 271305
Price:       
Price
Unit
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   33.99
Each
      
Warranty       Limited Lifetime
Attributes       Fan Clutch Bolt Circle Diameter : 1.39"
Fan Clutch Fan Mount Diameter : 2.62"
Fan Clutch Fan Mount Height : 1.36"
Fan Clutch Height : 3.09"
Fan Clutch Overall Diameter : 7.23"
Fan Clutch Pilot Diameter : .63"
Fan Clutch Rotation : Clockwise
Fan Clutch Style : 7" Regular Duty
Fan Clutch Type : Thermal
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010 - 10:11:52 AM »
I'm pretty certain but not a 100% that Jaguar used a clutch fan that was the same length shaft as the Mopar part numbers I gave below. It would be on the big engines, I think were the XJ6's.

I saw one at a junk yard and it looked identical in size and shape.
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010 - 10:14:33 AM »
I'm pretty certain but not a 100% that Jaguar used a clutch fan that was the same length shaft as the Mopar part numbers I gave below. It would be on the big engines, I think were the XJ6's.

I saw one at a junk yard and it looked identical in size and shape.


Interesting...I was just looking at this old post, I think the Jag was shorter.
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=37654.0
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010 - 01:22:16 PM »
the Jag clutch is the short one

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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014 - 09:52:26 AM »
what size are the bolts that mount clutch to water pump?
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Re: Fan clutch
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014 - 02:53:44 PM »
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