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Offline Moparal

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Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« on: June 01, 2010 - 10:53:29 PM »
I'm kinda venting and off to myself right now.  Just sad and angry over mishaps today and waiting till I sleep on this untill I talk to a monster.

I planted 33 trees on my property, put up 3 hundred foot of dbl rail cedar fence and I have bird houses scattered about my property. I grow tomatoes, peppers, potatoes and things like roses and now a fig tree. I love nature. Well I had a bbq today. I grilled 30 hambergers and 20 hot dogs for friends, relatives and my Neighbor Elaine. We have go carts to ride, toys to play with, and plenty of games, movies and toys.

This MONSTER kid!!!!!!!  decides he wants to try to hot wire my go cart,  OK. I stop him and don't show anger.  Then the MONSTER opens up my bird houses and scatters all my birds and got rid of some of the eggs. Just this morning I had noticed the 3rd generation of birds coming out of the houses and the parents teaching the babies how to fly. Now, well now, they're dead.   I was afraid to speak to him tonight, I felt I may say something I might regret and cause more harm than education.  He is a relative, but I wanted to find a 6th grader to kick his butt.  I just feel really bad right now.  I had roasted marsh mellows for the kids, and this monster starts burning them all and throwing them down. Then as I was playing the guitar and we were doing fun songs, the Monster started yelling in my ear.  I feel sad about my birds. We had a trusting bond when it came to them and mowing, weed eating, and letting them get their eggs hatched.  Just sad about the whole event of this one child.  I gotta find some words to say tomorrow. But for now, I sent him home.




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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010 - 11:14:28 PM »
Al  i've known kids like this. often bully's and usually end up in trouble with the law. I had a cousin like this, my aunt and uncle did what they could. The true stories I could tell. 
I hope it not too late for this one.
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010 - 11:34:30 PM »
What's the backstory here? No dad, no parental influence? If I were your position, I would sit him down and calmly tell him what's what and give him a real going over. If he pays no mind, then sweetly promise to beat the living **** out of him when he is least expecting it. If he tries to tell anyone, I think they will believe you over that little disrespectfull monster and at the very least he will know he F'd up big time

I feel I may need to do the same with my 12 yo nephew, thing of it is, is that his little brother is the sweetest little thing who likes to hang out and talk Mopar  :dunno:

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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010 - 11:54:55 PM »
My opinion.
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010 - 02:39:25 AM »
makes me wonder if the kid`s ok... I mean, is he autistic or something?  Might be a scream for attention... negative attention is attention too, right?   could be a spoiled monster in the end......  :aarg:   sucks either way
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010 - 02:41:11 AM »
 :iagree: I gotta go with Cuda Hunter on this one!
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010 - 08:09:00 AM »

 Sounds like the kid needs positive attention. Tell him you're positive you will whoop his butt if he doesn't straighten out. Have you let his parents know what happened?
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010 - 08:14:24 AM »
May be hard to do Al, but I'd think an honest stern talk with his parrents/gaurdian with him pressent would be a good start. If that went nowhere positive I'd honestly tell them that until he changes his behavior they don't need to bother comming around. What he deserves and what you can do are two different things. Anymore parents have to watch what they do as far as disipline and spanking go. Obviously what he did was also noticed by others there.
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010 - 09:08:23 AM »
Cuda Hunter is on the right path but as he is not your kid and the paddle is not big enough for that age group and he is related it can become a mine field.   :villagers:
Talking with the parents first might be a step in the right direction to make sure that they can see your side and are prepared to back you. It could be embarrassing if the parents side with their MONSTER, he should at least be shown the damage he has done. 
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010 - 09:40:11 AM »
Talk to his parents. AND invite me to your next BBQ :bigsmile:

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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010 - 10:09:55 AM »
May be hard to do Al, but I'd think an honest stern talk with his parrents/gaurdian with him pressent would be a good start. If that went nowhere positive I'd honestly tell them that until he changes his behavior they don't need to bother comming around. What he deserves and what you can do are two different things. Anymore parents have to watch what they do as far as disipline and spanking go. Obviously what he did was also noticed by others there.
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010 - 10:29:05 AM »
Whitesatinmopar nailed it. No amount of you talking to this kid is going tochange anything. Also do not expect to get a proper response from the parents/guardians on this issue. I would expectthem to deny the behaviour, excuse it, or get really mad at you. No matter what happens, expect to deny this child access to your property for at least a couple of years. If the parents think this is harsh, suggest that the little monster PAY for the damage to your property and your tenants, and get a good estimate of the worth of the birds from your local Audubon Society. Don't back down; assholes like this grow up and mke little assholes (sorry, but this kind of thing really torques me off!).

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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010 - 12:18:29 PM »
I give you alot of credit Al, For the simple reason that the kid is STILL ALIVE !!
The dead birds would have sent me over the edge. THE KIDS NEEDS A GOOD BEATING. If he continues to do bad things after that then take him to a doctor. The problem is no one taught him ACCOUNTABILITY for his deeds. If no one does he will continue to go and do what ever he feels like because he can get away with it. Parents are doing him no favors not disciplining him and are setting him up for some real pain down the road because sooner or later someone is going to cash his check and it's not going to be pretty. It is the parents job and not yours but you should let the parents know you are NOT going to put up with it ANYMORE!
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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010 - 12:44:15 PM »
Agreed with most of what was said. I would point out that there's a huge difference between being angry and being firm, between retaliating and correcting. Glad you held off from being angry, but personally I would have been firm enough to make him extremely fearful of any such further behavior. Especially when it comes to killing things. That's how serial killers get started.


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Re: Kids and nature ( im holding back)
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2010 - 07:25:36 PM »
I would speak to the parents and ask them to pay for the birds as they are responsible for his actions while on your property and they should have paid some attention to his actions,sounds they let him do whatever he wants with no remorse about it,,if he has some type of problem ,whatever it may be they should have known about it by now and watched him closer,,sounds like he is just spoiled and needs to be taught respect for others  :2cents:,,sorry about your birds
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