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After Rebuild Question
« on: June 06, 2010 - 12:09:43 AM »
I had my 727 rebuilt and a shift kit added.  When I got it back, the guy that rebuilt it put a note in the TC box.  It said to back something off 1 1/2 turn.  The problem is I did not use that TC and do not have the contents of that box.  The guy that built my tranny passed about 1 month after the rebuild.  Does anyone know what it might have been?  After how many miles after a rebuild would you change the filter and fluid?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2010 - 09:52:03 AM by mojavered »
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2010 - 02:17:00 PM »
OK, I was looking at the manual and it states that you should back off the kickdown band adjusting screw 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 turns depending on year of tranny.  I am sure this is what he was talking about.  When am I supposed to do this?  Now?
Another question.  I pulled the car off the jack stands the other day to see if I could drive it to the shop for exhaust and alignment.  Put it on the ground and in park I can roll it forward, in gear I can roll it forward.  Since I had a neutral, drive, and reverse, I figured I would take it for a quick putt around the block. :cooldancing:  I still need to get my tach repaired or replaced, but it seemed it starts and stays in 2nd gear.  Are there steps to get the tranny into first through 3rd and make it stay parked in park? 
If it makes a difference, it has a Lokar throttle and kick down cable installed.
I know, a lot of questions, but I would really appreciate the responses!
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010 - 01:02:49 PM »
Adjust your front band now. Is your shifter linkage adjusted right?
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010 - 10:40:06 AM »
Thank you for the reply Terry!
I will adjust the front band now. 
On the shifter linkage, I had to cut the bracket that holds the bar that comes down from the shifter.  The TTI's would not fit and this is what the instructions and the phone call to TTI said to do.  After I adjusted the linkage, I now have park, but it seems that I do not have 1st gear.  I have not driven the car since the first time, just started it and went back and forth in the garage.  There is P-R-N-2, and it seems to not go into first.  Again, I am not sure what gear it is in in park.  On my next days off, I am going to take it to the muffler shop so I can putt it around without sounding like a race car and see what adjustment I can get out of it.  If you have any suggestions, I would appreciate it.
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2010 - 01:44:24 PM »
Post some pics of your linkage.
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2010 - 08:02:21 PM »
I will definitely get a pic of that when I get off work, July 3rd.  I may need to readjust the bracket some more. 
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010 - 03:40:59 PM »
I am finally off work for a few days and had some time to get a few pics.  Let me know what you think.  I just have my reverse wires shoved under there right now.  They will be routed (in some manner??) later on.   If you look at the attachments, you can see how close the shift lever is.  The uploader is full right now, so I just created a photobucket account. 

http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae334/jsfn13/
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010 - 06:04:52 PM »
In this pic,is the header hitting the linkage?

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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010 - 06:18:23 PM »
Yes.  But not as bad as it looks in that pic.  I have ground down some of the area and added a different keeper pin so that it is not as close as with a key pin.  Is there an easy way to pull the z-bar out of the car?  I was thinking that I could cut and shorten the Z-bar (i think it is called that or maybe the torque shaft assembly?) to make more room???  Any suggestions?
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010 - 08:43:49 PM »
It looks like the rod is sticking down at least an inch more than it should be. See where the plastic bushing was riding on it before?
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010 - 01:48:33 AM »
Terry, I really appreciate your time on this.  I do see that wear mark and wonder if there is a way to just pull or lift it higher?  I took a look at it this morning to see if I can get that rod up but it does not seem that there is any way to do it ???  By bringing the shifting rod up, it would definitely fix my problem.  Under the console, there is only so much room, and it does appear that it is in the right spot.  The arms on the rod are stationary.  What is the best way to get some up/down adjustment?
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010 - 11:13:19 AM »
I think you need to take the shifter console cover off and see what is going on "top side"
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010 - 11:57:35 AM »
Does anyone have a pic of what the shift lever mechanism should look like under the center console, hooked up the correct way?  It would really help.  Thanks.
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2010 - 08:03:33 PM »
I took a look at the top portion of the shifter mechanism and it goes like this.  Cotter pin, washer, bushing (through the bracket), spring washer, washer, then the shaft which goes through the floor.  It seems correct to me, but not 100%. 
I backed off the adjusting band screw about 2-2 1/2 turns.  The tranny guy said to back it off 5-6 turns, but that seemed too many.  I think I still need to back it off some more though.  After backing it off, I went for a drive and it shifts 1-2nd at about 30 ish.  And then from 2nd to 3rd I had to make it want to go.  I had to gas it and let off or open the throttle and get up to about 80 for it to go to 3rd.  But the adjuster is for kick down, not shifting?  What am I missing?
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Re: After Rebuild Question
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2010 - 12:36:10 AM »
I looked at the top and everything is good.  I believe the reason for the wear mark lower than where the bushing is, is because the bracket is possibly turned the opposite direction.  Or upside down.  I saw a picture that MEK posted, cannot remember which thread, but his bracket was hung the opposite direction than mine.  It seems that it should not matter though.  If I turned it around, I would have to bend it the other way, then I would have the hole too close the the transmission and would not be able to get that bushing on the torque bar.  This is confusing me?  Not sure what I am going to do next.  I guess I will keep playing around with it when I go on days off.  Any suggestions?
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