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06Daytona
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4 speed identification
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June 28, 2010 - 03:51:43 PM »
How do I figure out what transmission I have in my car? I can't really see the casting number on the side, but with a little cleaning I might be able to
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
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Changin Gears
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 28, 2010 - 05:57:46 PM »
What is it your are trying to determine?
The '70 4 speed (common 23 spline) had 2.65:1 1st and the early syncro's. The 71-74 had the later syncro's and 2.47:1 1st. The 71-74 can be identified by looking for a rib on the side cover connecting bosses where the shifter arms attatch.
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06Daytona
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 28, 2010 - 06:11:44 PM »
I'm trying to figure out what year the tranny is and anything else I can. The car started as an auto so I don't know anything about the 4 speed. If I need to replace anything on it I don't want to guess and buy the wrong parts. There are a few leaks on it around some of the seals so I'd like to replace them as soon as possible
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4X4
2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser Convertible (Kidmobile)
1972 Dodge Charger 318 auto
1970 Challenger 440/727 auto
1973 Plymouth Duster 340/auto (Making it Panther Pink for the wife)
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid (It doesn't save gas, it just diverts it to the Cuda/Challenger)
In desperate need of more property for my growing Mopar family
Alaskan_TA
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 12:47:53 AM »
Does it have a VIN pad on the passenger side?
If it does, what are the numbers on it?
If no pad, then it would be from sometime in 1968 or earlier.
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Chryco Psycho
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 02:55:20 AM »
you could post a picture of it , it is doubtful it would be pre 70 as the tailshaft didn`t have a mount pad for the shifter to mount in the correct location
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06Daytona
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 08:39:00 AM »
Here's 3 pics I got of it. The car is on the ground so I had to crawl under. They aren't very good pics, but they might help.
On a side note, what is this thing? It's On the rad support behind the left headlight.
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4X4
2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser Convertible (Kidmobile)
1972 Dodge Charger 318 auto
1970 Challenger 440/727 auto
1973 Plymouth Duster 340/auto (Making it Panther Pink for the wife)
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid (It doesn't save gas, it just diverts it to the Cuda/Challenger)
In desperate need of more property for my growing Mopar family
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Re: 4 speed identification
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Reply #6 on:
June 29, 2010 - 12:52:25 PM »
it looks like a correct trans for the year , it seems to have the cast side cover & the older style of reverse detent
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06Daytona
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 01:01:24 PM »
Thanks. Somebody changed a bunch of bits on the car so I'm not sure what stuff is from what year
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4X4
2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser Convertible (Kidmobile)
1972 Dodge Charger 318 auto
1970 Challenger 440/727 auto
1973 Plymouth Duster 340/auto (Making it Panther Pink for the wife)
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid (It doesn't save gas, it just diverts it to the Cuda/Challenger)
In desperate need of more property for my growing Mopar family
ShelbyDogg
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 02:06:48 PM »
can you take a side picture of that "thing"
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Rob
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06Daytona
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 02:29:58 PM »
Side view
Down the back side by the fender
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4X4
2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser Convertible (Kidmobile)
1972 Dodge Charger 318 auto
1970 Challenger 440/727 auto
1973 Plymouth Duster 340/auto (Making it Panther Pink for the wife)
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid (It doesn't save gas, it just diverts it to the Cuda/Challenger)
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ShelbyDogg
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 03:14:34 PM »
Could be a compressor for some kind of horn?
Could be an electric siren for an alarm system?
What does it do when you "hook it up"?
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Rob
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06Daytona
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Re: 4 speed identification
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June 29, 2010 - 03:23:34 PM »
I haven't tried to hook it up yet. I thought it might be factory because there's a bracket behind it that it's attached to. I'm a little spooked with the idea of hooking it up before I know what it's supposed to be.
That's what the top looks like after I scraped off some of the flat black that it was hosed with. There are 2 terminals and 3 things that look kind of like hose hook ups along with a thing with a cap on it. There's a wire coming off the bottom part that goes to the positive on the relay? on the drivers inner fender and I'm guessing it's a negative that's taped off and just sitting there.
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4X4
2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser Convertible (Kidmobile)
1972 Dodge Charger 318 auto
1970 Challenger 440/727 auto
1973 Plymouth Duster 340/auto (Making it Panther Pink for the wife)
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid (It doesn't save gas, it just diverts it to the Cuda/Challenger)
In desperate need of more property for my growing Mopar family
06Daytona
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Posts: 1099
Re: 4 speed identification
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July 08, 2010 - 12:20:17 PM »
Quick question here. I want to check my trans fluid and don't know where the fluid fill is on it. Is it in any of the pics I posted so I can check it before the weekend?
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4X4
2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser Convertible (Kidmobile)
1972 Dodge Charger 318 auto
1970 Challenger 440/727 auto
1973 Plymouth Duster 340/auto (Making it Panther Pink for the wife)
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid (It doesn't save gas, it just diverts it to the Cuda/Challenger)
In desperate need of more property for my growing Mopar family
Changin Gears
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Re: 4 speed identification
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July 08, 2010 - 01:33:56 PM »
It's on the passenger side, about 1/2 way up, on the main case (pipe plug).
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06Daytona
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Re: 4 speed identification
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July 08, 2010 - 02:03:45 PM »
Cool. Thanks
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1972 Cuda 340 4 barrel 4 speed that looks like a 71
2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4X4
2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser Convertible (Kidmobile)
1972 Dodge Charger 318 auto
1970 Challenger 440/727 auto
1973 Plymouth Duster 340/auto (Making it Panther Pink for the wife)
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid (It doesn't save gas, it just diverts it to the Cuda/Challenger)
In desperate need of more property for my growing Mopar family
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