Tubular Upper control arms

[Tom Quad]

I have RMS UCA's with urethane bushings that have been torture tested [road course driving] for many thousands of miles now. Do you want me to go look up how many thousands in the log book or can you just take my word for it? 
No problems, just quality products working well.

The tubular UCAs improve the ride quality and handling.
There are more than several choices, but the adjustables are always your best bet as they have enough adjustment to make up for issues with a car's alignment from collision damage

[73EStroker]

HP2 - just bought them two days back so they are not here yet. Will measure center to center, with the HEIMs @ center adjustment, and post once I get them.

[black71]

bought mine from mancini...definatley aint going to run them after seing the pics! not sure i'd even want to sell them to somebody

[boydsdodge]

Well, they look bad-a$$. Where did you get these?

Those fancy ass control arms are from Hotchkis,
Bucks that I haven't herd any real world reviews on yet.

[72hemi]

I have seen the Hotchkis yellow T/A on the autocross and the car flat hauls butt. I think I may have a video of it on my computer at home. I will check and if I do post it. But personally I will save the money and go with the SPC units which are double adjustable.

[boydsdodge]

Funny thing tho, When I was out at Willow Springs for the Spring Fling, The guys there said that Hotchkis didn't come to the track because they didn't want the home build Mopar road racers beating there Challenger,
Any thoughts on that from the West coast?
autoxcuda Is from out that way maybe he can help.
 I believe he has a full Hotchkis system in his Cuda.

[72hemi]

That's interesting. The Hotchkis Challenger was one of the fastest cars at the Autocross event and there were cars like Z06 Corvettes, Maier Racing built Mustangs and a bunch of other cars that are built to handle, and even some pro drivers.

[boydsdodge]

I agree, and cheer them on. I tried coaxing them to come out every time I ordered some parts from them.
I really thought Spring Fling would be a hit for them.
But you did say they were on top racing Chevies, so they still have some racing to do when it comes to Mopars with pro drivers....

[73EStroker]

I bought these. Nothing against any other product except this one corrects some steering geometry.

I got them from Matts Classic Bowties - $644 + shipping.

I am happy - got a text from wifey and they have arrived. Will get some measurements and post them when I return home on 28 Aug. MCB gave me fast service so I will give them my rating on EBay. More to come with the suspension getting adjusted with these arms so that I can steer the car more comfortable at high speed - 90MPH plus.

[autoxcuda]

Funny thing tho, When I was out at Willow Springs for the Spring Fling, The guys there said that Hotchkis didn't come to the track because they didn't want the home build Mopar road racers beating there Challenger,
Any thoughts on that from the West coast?
autoxcuda Is from out that way maybe he can help.
 I believe he has a full Hotchkis system in his Cuda.

That's a bunch of guys yapping.

The deal is they had a very big display at the Spring Fling show two days later, so it was tough to get out the track when they had employees out two weekend days working an event. And they had a scheduled photo shoot with MCG magazine that had limited time in town.

We'll see for next Spring Fling Speed Festival. They're interested if the scheduling works out. I think we'll see them.

The deal with that Hotchkis E/B body arms is that they found a bunch of bump steer with those cars. So they took out some anti dive (don't need that much in a handling car) to get the bump steer a bunch better.

Demonstrated and explained here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzxPWrdPlt0

Discription here: http://www.hotchkis.net/dodge_b_e_body_geometry_corrected_tubular_upper_aarms.html

[72hemi]

Here are some autocross videos for comparison. The first video link is of the Hotchkis Challenger, the 2nd link is of a gen 2 Camaro driven by SCCA professional driver Mary Pozzi, and the 3rd video is of a Z06 Corvette. All 3 of these were at the same autocross event.

Hotchkis Challenger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkvNtav3i6Q

Camaro driven by professional driver Mary Pozzi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0FgD1BrcQ

Black Z06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOsfguKnf50

[Katfish]

Is just me, or did that 70 Camaro look way faster than the Challenger?

Any way to find the times for comparison?

[ChallengerHK]

I would love to see those times as well.

The Camaro was really nose-diving during braking.

[autoxcuda]

Is just me, or did that 70 Camaro look way faster than the Challenger?

Any way to find the times for comparison?

Different drivers.

I think that may be Mary Pozzi's own personal car she races all the time too.

[72hemi]

Yes that is Mary's personal car and she had the fastest time of the weekend in that car, so not the fairest comparison. The Challenger was a few seconds slower than Mary, but I can't remember the exact times, but I believe it was pretty close to the time of that Z06 Corvette, but still slower. The fact that the Challenger is anywhere near the Corvette is amazing considering how much bigger and heavier the car is.