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Offline brads70

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speeding up the steering ?
« on: July 13, 2010 - 09:28:27 PM »
2 things "bug me" about my car....the braking, and the slow steering!
 Other than the firm feel idler and pitman arms and a T/A steering box any creative idea's on speeding up the steering?  Are there new gear kits available to swap out in the power steering box? Seems like a good business opportunity for someone? I wonder if a bracket could be made to swap in a GM power steering box or something like that?
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010 - 09:42:12 PM »
You can buy a rack and pinion assembly for about $1500.  :money: Bolt in.
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010 - 09:59:54 PM »
You can buy a rack and pinion assembly for about $1500.  :money: Bolt in.

Ya thinking about that...but  :money:
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010 - 10:04:41 PM »
Smaller steering wheel?

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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010 - 09:08:46 AM »
Steering quickener. They come in 1.5:1 and 2:1 ratios, but require cuting the column and fabricating connections and mounts.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/ProductSummary.aspx?free_text  then search steering quickener
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010 - 09:49:46 AM »
Steering quickener. They come in 1.5:1 and 2:1 ratios, but require cuting the column and fabricating connections and mounts.

I take it this is a small gearbox that you add in?


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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010 - 02:50:32 PM »
Yes, they are an inline ratio multiplier, so they need to go between the steering wheel and steering box.

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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010 - 05:21:26 AM »
Pictures of one of those steering quickners installed in the Hotchkis Challenger T/A.



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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010 - 09:41:00 AM »
Anyone ever look into what it would take to put a GM style box in?
 Here is a 16:1 P/S box that's cost would not be prohibitive http://www.amazon.com/CJR-1612354BC-16-Steering-NASCAR/dp/B001RMWL52
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010 - 10:13:17 AM »
Anyone ever look into what it would take to put a GM style box in?
 Here is a 16:1 P/S box that's cost would not be prohibitive http://www.amazon.com/CJR-1612354BC-16-Steering-NASCAR/dp/B001RMWL52


That's were/what I was thinking?  Although it would feel wrong putting a Gm part in my Mopar..... I wonder if you could make an "adapter bracket"? I'd like to get another K-frame to play around with.....that and a splined sway bar set up. I think I'd be more inclinded to use a stock car( woodward, sweet etc..) rack and pinion set up.... more durable/stronger, and you can replace parts when needed instead of the whole unit.
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010 - 10:16:25 AM »
That's were/what I was thinking?  Although it would feel wrong putting a Gm part in my Mopar..... I wonder if you could make an "adapter bracket"? I'd like to get another K-frame to play around with.....that and a splined sway bar set up. I think I'd be more inclinded to use a stock car( woodward, sweet etc..) rack and pinion set up.... more durable/stronger, and you can replace parts when needed instead of the whole unit.


I like the way you think, but heck GM (Saginaw)made the OE pieces....Those steering quickeners are smaller & cheaper than I thought they would be though http://stockcarproducts.com/steer4.htm
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010 - 03:34:48 PM »
I like the way you think, but heck GM (Saginaw)made the OE pieces....Those steering quickeners are smaller & cheaper than I thought they would be though http://stockcarproducts.com/steer4.htm


Exactly. The cost of the saginaw 16:1, 14:1 or 12:1 boxes plus the effort of the custom adapter.... Seems like a better deal to uses a steering quickner.
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010 - 04:01:57 PM »
Has anyone seen/used the electric steering box yet?  I think I saw it in the newest MCG.

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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010 - 05:55:12 PM »
Has anyone seen/used the electric steering box yet?  I think I saw it in the newest MCG.

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For the price I think I'd prefer a tubular K-frame & rack & pinion.
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Re: speeding up the steering ?
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010 - 06:02:08 PM »
You can really open things up by using one of these, then put the quickener inline with a shaft to either the wheel or the box.

http://wizardsteerclear.com/