Author Topic: Bad fitting rear valance (Read 18725 times)

tomsa · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2010 - 12:10:20 PM »

Quote from: Slotts on July 14, 2010 - 10:02:09 AM

Hey Tomas,
My rear pan was only connected with the four tabs on each edge of the pan, two per side, the two sheet metal screws and the center brace that connects to the tail panel cross member. I am modifying the the cross member and making a small mount on each side to make a connection near the bumper guard hole to straighten out the pan. It will have to mount on the bottom of the cross member to miss the bumper mounts. Just a suggestion you may consider doing.

Slotts

I have no bracket at the center but I have some holes for something there
When I called a swedish "sheet metal seller" he look at his items and told me that they have a centerbracket spot welded and some reinforced bracket at the top
Mine has nothing at all like that
I have found one of two brackets like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-71-Challenger-Rear-Valance-Panel-Brackets-PAIR-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2464cc63QQitemZ400042544227QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

purple1 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2010 - 12:33:21 PM »

Best pic I got... Shows the center support bracket.

Bluemonster71RT · « **Reply #17 on:** July 14, 2010 - 12:39:11 PM »

I just went through a issue similer to this as far as how it looked on the LH quarter. I found that the shop that put my lower quarter patch on did not bend the edge where the valance bolts to correctly. There is a a body line that looks as it would be where to bend the quarter in bmt that is only half true. If done incorrectly you get the diagnal line like you have in your pic. (I did that wrong myself first.)So I ended up with something like you have where the curve isn't correct. I had to undo the spot welds between the inner and outer rear quarter and re bend the quarter correctly. Then I had to drill new holes and also add the extention tab as my valance is aftermarket and lines up like junk without the quarter issue.

burdar · « **Reply #18 on:** July 14, 2010 - 01:16:32 PM »

1970 and some early 1971's used those rear valance brackets. Most 71's and all 72-74's used the one pictured on "purple1's" car.

tomsa · « **Reply #19 on:** July 14, 2010 - 02:03:41 PM »

So you mean that if I "bend" the quater panel out that arc becomes more curved like my valance?

Quote from: Bluemonster71RT on July 14, 2010 - 12:39:11 PM

I just went through a issue similer to this as far as how it looked on the LH quarter. I found that the shop that put my lower quarter patch on did not bend the edge where the valance bolts to correctly. There is a a body line that looks as it would be where to bend the quarter in bmt that is only half true. If done incorrectly you get the diagnal line like you have in your pic. (I did that wrong myself first.)So I ended up with something like you have where the curve isn't correct. I had to undo the spot welds between the inner and outer rear quarter and re bend the quarter correctly. Then I had to drill new holes and also add the extention tab as my valance is aftermarket and lines up like junk without the quarter issue.

Bluemonster71RT · « **Reply #20 on:** July 14, 2010 - 05:38:17 PM »

Short answer is yes. Your going to have to re shape it where it's supposed to be bent. My RH quater had no work done to it so I had a good templet to follow. The quarter should match the curve of the valance in that section. It wasn't easy for me and I ended up having to use some filler to get it where I wanted but if you are good at body work I think on the scale of 1-10 it would be a 4.

tomsa · « **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2010 - 06:09:14 PM »

Are we talking about this :

I can�t figure out how the quater panels shape can be more bent if I out to a wider measure

Quote from: Bluemonster71RT on July 14, 2010 - 05:38:17 PM

Short answer is yes. Your going to have to re shape it where it's supposed to be bent. My RH quater had no work done to it so I had a good templet to follow. The quarter should match the curve of the valance in that section. It wasn't easy for me and I ended up having to use some filler to get it where I wanted but if you are good at body work I think on the scale of 1-10 it would be a 4.

purple1 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2010 - 06:24:53 PM »

Quote from: tomsa on July 14, 2010 - 12:03:34 PM

This 2.25" holes then,do they belong on a challenger?
They looks stock
Even if the quater panels is misplaced the shapes doesn�t fit at all

very confuses now

No. The 2.25" holes do not belong.
Lets ask this... Are they cheap patch pannels that were used to repair that area? Maybe the new pannels have the wrong shape?

tomsa · « **Reply #23 on:** July 14, 2010 - 06:31:54 PM »

You mean the quater panels?
They look similar to the ones I cut away and were fitting nice when I tested them "outside" of the old before cutting

I bought them from http://www.body-panel.com/

So the 2.25" holes doesn�t belong there,but they are nicely done,like punched out
Looks stock made to me

Quote from: purple1 on July 14, 2010 - 06:24:53 PM

No. The 2.25" holes do not belong.
Lets ask this... Are they cheap patch pannels that were used to repair that area? Maybe the new pannels have the wrong shape?

purple1 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 14, 2010 - 06:41:19 PM »

Quote from: tomsa on July 14, 2010 - 06:31:54 PM

You mean the quater panels?
They look similar to the ones I cut away and were fitting nice when I tested them "outside" of the old before cutting

I bought them from http://www.body-panel.com/

So the 2.25" holes doesn�t belong there,but they are nicely done,like punched out
Looks stock made to me

Just trying to figure whats wrong here. And it looks like the quarters are shaped wrong to me.

Let me get some pics we can match up that curve....

MEK-Dangerfield · « **Reply #25 on:** July 14, 2010 - 07:28:22 PM »

I'll just say I have NEVER seen a Challenger with those holes in the rear valence panel. Either they had cutouts for dual exhaust, or the single pipe ran underneath.

purple1 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 14, 2010 - 07:28:53 PM »

Compair this to your pic and you will see its the quarter that looks wrong.

purple1 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 14, 2010 - 07:32:58 PM »

Harder to see in this pic of my purple car, but it still shows the quarter should have a curve to match that valance.

Bluemonster71RT · « **Reply #28 on:** July 14, 2010 - 08:13:06 PM »

Thats exactly what I am saying. The quarter is curverd wrong just like mine was. I had a post on it for just the same reason when I found mine was off. I have pics of it on my resto page. I measured the face where where you are supposed to bolt the valance to and it was a half inch shorter in width than my un touched side. Meaning that the patch peice was wrong or the body shop hung it incorrectly. As far as the valance it's self there shouldn't be those holes in it.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=55528.45 page 3 and 4 for the pics . on page 4 you can see the big difference from the edge of the factory RH side and the wrong fold on the LH side.

73Chally · « **Reply #29 on:** July 14, 2010 - 09:21:16 PM »

The valence you have is one of the non-cutout ones without the exhaust cutouts, like you would get with a 318 or slant 6 where the pipes bend down and are not seen. Someone just cut a couple holes in it probably for a custom exhaust setup.

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