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Offline boxfox

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Weight of oil?
« on: July 16, 2010 - 03:17:50 AM »
What weight of oil should be used in a 1977 440 that is running a temperature of 215-220?
I am currently using a conventional 20W50.




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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010 - 03:32:19 AM »
this is a huge issue right now
 there is no oil available that is correct for that engine off the shelf , anyhting with a SM rating will eat the cam sooner or later so you either have to add additives to the oil with more ZDDP or buy Z Alt oil

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010 - 04:23:28 AM »
this is a huge issue right now
 there is no oil available that is correct for that engine off the shelf , anyhting with a SM rating will eat the cam sooner or later so you either have to add additives to the oil with more ZDDP or buy Z Alt oil

would that apply to 72-73 340's as well?
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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010 - 09:23:44 AM »
Yes, it would. Some new oils have recently been introduced that will meet the requirements of our flat-tappet cam-equipped engines. Do some research. Valvoline racing oils have the required amount of ZDDP, as well as oils from Comp Cams, and some others. Z-Alt was one of the first to address this issue specifically, and is a good benchmark to compare other oils to.

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010 - 09:54:13 AM »
I see Lucas has a High Zinc oil that's not unreasonable...Wonder if local auto stores can get as they carry the brand.
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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010 - 11:06:59 AM »
20-50w oils have lower detergent levels so the oil needs to be changed more frequently

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2010 - 11:23:44 AM »
What about the Royal Purple oils?
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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2010 - 01:10:41 PM »
I have been using the Valvoline VR1 conventional race oil 20w50, so I should be fine then?
Is 20w50 too thick or is it just right?
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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010 - 02:13:13 PM »
What about the Royal Purple oils?

The RP racing oils are fine.

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2010 - 02:19:54 PM »
Would Mobil 1 Synthetic 10W-30 work?

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2010 - 02:36:58 PM »
Would Mobil 1 Synthetic 10W-30 work?

no, it is low on zddp, but, Mobil1 15-50 has a good dose.

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2010 - 02:49:25 PM »
I heard its bad to run any kind of Synthetic because the molecules are smaller and will slip past a lot of the big components in the older engines without helping them move around or giving the protection needed.
Anyone else hear this?

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2010 - 04:31:01 PM »
I heard its bad to run any kind of Synthetic because the molecules are smaller and will slip past a lot of the big components in the older engines without helping them move around or giving the protection needed.
Anyone else hear this?

I have heard you shouldn't run synthetic the first couple of thousand miles. I run synthetic in mine with no trouble. Just look at the label for CI-4 rating or if it says added zinc phosphorous or ZDDP. Also, don't go with a light weight oil like they use in modern cars. 5W-30 won't cut it.   :grinno:

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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2010 - 04:39:13 PM »
 :iagree: absolute minimum 15-40, but I'm currently running 20-50 zr-1.  :grinyes:
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Re: Weight of oil?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2010 - 09:32:27 PM »
I have been using Mobil Delvac 1300, 15-40  CI-4 PLUS rating..