70 Cuda questions

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Offline Nilater

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70 Cuda questions
« on: July 18, 2010 - 11:52:00 AM »
New to classic Mopars with a few questions for the experts on a 70 Cuda street car:
1) want to lower the suspension without spending a fortune. What's best?
2) are 4 wheel aftermarket disc brakes worth the investment?
3) will late model Challenger seats fit front and rear?
4) thinking of converting a 383 to a Hemi - need a reasonable source for an old school 426 Hemi and what else will I need to swap?
5) is Just Dashes the best option for a dash pad?
6) any good aftermarket gauge clusters available ?

Thanks,
Dan




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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010 - 01:32:39 PM »
1. XV motorsports has a stage 1 and stage 2 suspension kit and they both lower the ride height some. Although there have been some complaints about XV lately so check out hotchkis. Of course both of these are performance kits, if you don't care about handling there are cheaper ways to do it.
2. 4 wheel disc brakes will always be worth it to me. Not only do disc brakes usually stop better, but they are easier to work on lol.
3. I am sure the front seats would fit with some modifications, but I am not too sure about the back ones.
4. Unless you are planning on only driving this car occasionally I would not put a hemi in it. They need constant maintenance to run properly. Also they are expensive as heck to get.
5. You can get dash pads from any number of places and for the most part they should be pretty much the same thing. I would probably order one from year one though considering that I have worked with them before and they have great customer service.
6. http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=61386.0 This link is full of all the all the aftermarket gauge clusters currently available.
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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010 - 01:34:59 PM »
1. Crank down the torsion bars in front, rear.....not too sure, mayhap re-curve the springs
2. well worth the investment, if I had the cash, I would be all over it
3. Yes
4. Check around, they are out there but very expensive
5. I have heard about fitment/ grain issues
6. Year one has some, I wasn't too impressed with the looks though.

Hope this helps and I am sure another menmber will chime in here as well

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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010 - 08:59:45 PM »
 Use 73-74 B-body spindles to drop the front end about an inch without screwing up the alignment.
Unless you're racing stay with stock front disc and rear drum. You're wasting time and money to switch them out. Parts are easy to find for the original stuff if you break down out on the road.
As far as I know there's no way you can fit late model challenger seats without some re-engineering work and a good upholsterer. They don't just bolt right in.
I've had hemis and they're expensive and don't really run any better than a good 440 that can be bought for less than half of the cost.
I've had great luck with Just Dashes and no luck with the repros from Year One.
With a little work you can install Autometer gauges in a standard cluster. Just order a 5" speedo and 2 5/8 " gauges.
Here's a pic of my Challenger with Autometers in a standard cluster.
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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010 - 08:53:04 AM »
1] there is no reason to spend a lot of $$ to lower the car , I would use a 1" torsion bar & adjust the bar down or use a drop spindle , the rear can be lowered with lowering blocks between the diff & springs
2] I like 4 wheel disc although the rear brakes do little , but the disc will dissapate heat better than drum do & will not fade with hard use
3] I agree that the front buckets can be made to work , I have not tried the rear & it would take some work to fit them
4] If you want to go to a Hemi I would use a new block for the build & have an engine built to spec not buy a prebuilt crate , you can mount it with Schumaker mounts to your existing K frame , you will need headers or manifolds for the Hemi , virtually everything else can be used from the 383 , you will need a different flex plate or flywheel with the 8 bolt hemi crank . I cam build a very strong 440/512" stroker for approx the cost of heads & rocker gear alone for the hemi though
5] Personally the dash pad I got from JD was garbage & have better luck with Ultimate rides product
6]you can fit gauges into the stock dash or there are full custom panels available or can be made to fit the existing dash

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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010 - 09:44:05 AM »
When I checked with Just Dashes they were around $900, Ultimate Rides was only $550, I bought mine from Nick's Classic Parts. Nick was great to work with, I had a couple of issuses with the pad and Nick took care of everything for me I highly recomend you use Nick.  :thumbsup:
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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010 - 12:43:52 PM »
Does Nick do your original dash pad?  On my 70 RT SE,  I want to make sure that I get my original dash pad frame.
The ones that I bought from Ultimate Rides in the beginning had plastic frames and the pad didn't fit well at all. It looked like the ends were melted and the grain was smooth in that area. I sent it back and had JD do mine and it was absolutley perfect. The 70 challengers have the stitching that is very hard to duplicate.
I'm all for saving money if I can be assured that it will be perfect when I get it back. If I didn't care what it looked like, I would just use one of those cheapo plastic caps.
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1970 Superbird (Yes, it's real) Black Ice
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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010 - 09:59:19 PM »
I have a crack in my original dash, it still looks pretty good, but it adds character with the crack. I just might leave it as $900 is about more than 1/3 of the cost of a six pack.

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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010 - 11:56:59 PM »
I just bought another 71 Cuda last week. It's a real shaker hood, rear spoiler, sassy grass green car that has been an orange drag car for the last 35 years. It's staying a drag car and it's keeping the original dash even with the one crack in the center. That's patina.
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1971 Cuda Drag Car
1973 Cuda Clone, EFI/OD Limelight
1970 Superbird (Yes, it's real) Black Ice
1971 Barracuda Sassy Grass Green (sold)
1970 Challenger RT SE 383 Plum Crazy
1969 Road Runner Hardtop
1968 Road Runner Coupe (sold)

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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010 - 04:47:51 PM »
New to classic Mopars with a few questions for the experts on a 70 Cuda street car:
1) want to lower the suspension without spending a fortune. What's best?
2) are 4 wheel aftermarket disc brakes worth the investment?
3) will late model Challenger seats fit front and rear?
4) thinking of converting a 383 to a Hemi - need a reasonable source for an old school 426 Hemi and what else will I need to swap?
5) is Just Dashes the best option for a dash pad?
6) any good aftermarket gauge clusters available ?

No the rear seat will not fit. As it's much larger then the 'cuda seat.

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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010 - 03:23:27 PM »
1] there is no reason to spend a lot of $$ to lower the car , I would use a 1" torsion bar & adjust the bar down or use a drop spindle , the rear can be lowered with lowering blocks between the diff & springs
2] I like 4 wheel disc although the rear brakes do little , but the disc will dissapate heat better than drum do & will not fade with hard use
3] I agree that the front buckets can be made to work , I have not tried the rear & it would take some work to fit them
4] If you want to go to a Hemi I would use a new block for the build & have an engine built to spec not buy a prebuilt crate , you can mount it with Schumaker mounts to your existing K frame , you will need headers or manifolds for the Hemi , virtually everything else can be used from the 383 , you will need a different flex plate or flywheel with the 8 bolt hemi crank . I cam build a very strong 440/512" stroker for approx the cost of heads & rocker gear alone for the hemi though
5] Personally the dash pad I got from JD was garbage & have better luck with Ultimate rides product
6]you can fit gauges into the stock dash or there are full custom panels available or can be made to fit the existing dash

What type of problems show up with a prebuilt hemi crate vs one built? Quality Control? Better parts/choices? Price?

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Re: 70 Cuda questions
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010 - 05:56:56 PM »
Crate engines give you no parts choice , you get what you get , if you want it changed you buy the part again
Definatly better quality control as well , price may be a bit better with a crate but not once you replace parts & or fix problems that are not warrantied

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