alright, thanks guys, so 572 is out of question. what would you estimate the hp/tq difference between the 512 and 543. and what would be the sound quality between the two. since they both are the same price (besides external oil pickup), i wouldnt mind spending the extra couple hundred for the oil pickup as long as hp/tq and the cound qaulity is worth it. i, as most of you im sure, love heavy thumpin cammin engines, so if the 543 would be alot more noticable over the 512 then id obviously prefer that. ive looked for videos but cant find any to judge sound between the two.