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Offline daveh

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Installing Engine & Trans
« on: August 04, 2010 - 04:43:41 PM »
Ok guys everyone has convinced me to remove the K-member and install the engine and trans from the bottom.  Especially since I'm installing a TKO-600 in the 71 Challenger. 

Anyway being a chevy guy for the past 25 years and never working on a Mopar I really don't know what is the best way to proceed.  I removed the engine and trans and I'm getting ready to paint the engine bay after the K-member is out.

My question:  What is the best procedure to go about removing the K-member, torsion bars and upper and lower ball joints, etc?  I just don't want to have something go flying, like a chevy coil spring could if you don't know what you're doing. 

If someone has step by step procedures on removal and installation (torque specs) with pictures I would really appreciate it.  

One more question: Can the engine with the headers attached be installed from the bottom with the steering components installed or do I install the steering components after the engine is installed?  Thanks

Dave




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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010 - 01:36:23 AM »
take the presuure off the torsion bars by undoing the bolt in the lower control arm , remove the nut from the front of the lower control arm pivot & the clip at the rear of the T bar  & pry both back ,the T bar will slide out , I remove the brake rotor & remove the 2 bolts holding the lower ball joint onto the spindle . all the steering gear can remain attached to the K frame , I use a snow mobile pad as caters to move the kframe with the engine & trans as one unit to roll it under the car

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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010 - 07:58:03 AM »
There should be a wire clip at the backside of each torsion bar in the cross-member that needs to be removed before the bars can slide back. 
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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010 - 09:53:08 PM »
If you have a 4 post car lift like a backyard buddy, will that work for lowering the car down to the k-member?

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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010 - 06:16:50 PM »
Here's how we do it.
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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2010 - 02:32:28 PM »
Hotrod98,

Thats a great pic of the engine cradle.  It looks so good I was wondering if you would be interested in selling me one?  I appreciate it.  Thanks

Dave

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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2010 - 05:42:30 PM »
Hotrod98,

Thats a great pic of the engine cradle.  It looks so good I was wondering if you would be interested in selling me one?  I appreciate it.  Thanks

Dave


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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010 - 01:46:46 AM »
good idea if you have the right equipment , if your in your garage and only have jackstands and a jack or car ramps, i say put it in through the top but thats just me . eather way it all works out in the end.,
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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010 - 10:09:39 AM »
I can weld something like that up.  Just have to go buy some 2" square tubing, the casters I already have.  I just needed a good picture to go by.  I was planning on installing it through the top of the bay but you can't with the trans, headers and accessories installed which I want to do.  It's just easier that way and with everything attached you can't go in from the top.  I'm also converting to a Kessler 5 speed and this way I'm not laying under the car trying to figure it all out.  Thanks everyone.

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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010 - 10:25:12 AM »
Look through Dodgeboys build thread.  He used a cherry picker to lift the front of the car and then roll the engine/trans assembly under.
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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2010 - 10:50:50 AM »
I plan on doing something similar.  I have a chain hoist attached to a steel I beam in the garage and will use that to lift it.  Been doing it for years pulling engines.  The best part is that I put rollers on it so it will have a little give when I need it too.  Thanks again

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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010 - 02:33:54 PM »
Look through Dodgeboys build thread.  He used a cherry picker to lift the front of the car and then roll the engine/trans assembly under.


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Re: Installing Engine & Trans
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010 - 08:44:10 PM »
Leave the upper control arms on , just disconnect from the upper ball joint or you will have to do the wheel alignment over...