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    Offline TinCuda

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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #75 on: August 06, 2011 - 05:57:49 PM »
    I still say big block.  All I ever here from the small block guys is how fast they made them go or how much fuel mileage they get.  They are always making some reason (excuse) that they would rather go with the 340.  It is never the other way around.  Nobody ever asked me why I have a 440.  Sure you can make a lawn mower engine run 10 second quarter miles if you have enough money/know how, but is that really what you want?  Really?  Like I said earlier,  When ever you have a group of people standing around looking at cars, someone will always ask you what's under the hood.  You can either stand there and try to explain to them why you prefer the 340 or you can simply say that it is a Big block.  They will say "Oh, cool" and that will be that.  I have always heard, never be afraid to buy the very best.  It only costs a little bit more and you will never be disappointed.  More importantly, you will never have to explain why you didn't.


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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #76 on: August 06, 2011 - 06:43:57 PM »
    IT really goes back to my chilodhood , I raced a 360 Cuda 3 times , he had 5k+ in the 360 & it was an awesome car But I had a stock U code Chall & outran him past 100 mph easily , some things leave a big impression ! :burnout: :burnout:
     In the same car approx the same year a Camaro was harrassing me on the highway at about 70 MPH , he kept pulling up & flashing the throttle , bouncing the nose of his car trying to get me to go !! I casually shifted back into 3rd gear & dumped the throttle wide open , I didn't pull on him though  :dunno: then I felt the rear fishtail & smoke was pouring out my wheelwells , I shifted back into 4th & left him behind instantly , oddly he didn't want to play anymore !! :burnout:
     Having said that the technology didn't exist back then either with stroker kits & tires ,but even a stock 440 had a lot of power !!
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #77 on: August 06, 2011 - 07:52:12 PM »
    I have owned many makes and models of fast cars. My only comment is that I have never owned a car that has pulled so hard and annihilated tires like the HP2 440 in my challenger. It is so damn powerful

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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #78 on: August 06, 2011 - 08:32:52 PM »
    looks like there both great motors ,leave it to fate an flip a coin 
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #79 on: August 07, 2011 - 11:20:22 PM »
    it was said before, and i have to agree

    there is no replacement for displacement.

    but you can get a SB over 400 cubes now.
    the truth of the matter is, it's "whatever you want"

    i have both. a bone stock 340 4 speed challenger. i drove that from
    NJ to the Nats last year. awesome car to drive.

    i also have a 440, indy ez-head, 4 speed challenger. that car, i wouldn't
    drive to the nats from NJ. i'd have to buy an oil company  :roflsmiley:
    now let me tell you, that car IS awesome to drive too.

    i say it's best to have one of each, for whatever mood your in  :naughty:
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #80 on: August 10, 2011 - 08:04:54 PM »
    The small block IMO was never intended to be a performance engine until the 340....Where the small block guys/gals have it over the BB people is the factory Fuel injection set ups to help with MPG....

    Basically, it all boils down to this, the small block in ANY form will always have something to prove. The Big block won't whether it's on race day, show scene, whatever. It's just understood. So with that said, most when faced with a decision, they tend to pull for the underdog and that's the small block.
    Kinda like little brother/sister competing with big brother/sister type thing. One will always be running in the shadow of the other.

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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #81 on: August 11, 2011 - 10:02:29 AM »
    Quote from: Chryco Psycho on August 06, 2011 - 06:43:57 PM

     In the same car approx the same year a Camaro was harrassing me on the highway at about 70 MPH , he kept pulling up & flashing the throttle , bouncing the nose of his car trying to get me to go !! I casually shifted back into 3rd gear & dumped the throttle wide open , I didn't pull on him though  :dunno: then I felt the rear fishtail & smoke was pouring out my wheelwells , I shifted back into 4th & left him behind instantly , oddly he didn't want to play anymore !! :burnout:
     

    Priceless story!!!  :roflsmiley:
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #82 on: August 11, 2011 - 06:00:35 PM »
    Quote from: Cooter on August 10, 2011 - 08:04:54 PM
    The small block IMO was never intended to be a performance engine until the 340....Where the small block guys/gals have it over the BB people is the factory Fuel injection set ups to help with MPG....


    Not actually true , the wide block 318 has single & dual 4 intakes as early as the late 50s & the 273 cmae with a 4 bbl , solid cam & adjustable rockers , the 273 is quite a powerhouse for a small small block !!
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #83 on: August 11, 2011 - 08:08:24 PM »
    Quote from: 67vertman on August 08, 2010 - 09:17:11 PM
    I have owned both, big blocks and small blocks, and there is a lot to say for both engines. I am still on the fence on which way to go BB or SB.

    So, the question is, for a weekend driver and occasional car show, and mostly fun to drive car, which motor would you choose?  All other items will be the same wither it’s a BB/SB - 4 sp, 355 gears, power disk brakes, A/C.

    The answer seams simple to me depending on the following:

    * Go with the big block 440 if you want the fastest In Line performance.

    ** Go with the 340 if you want to actually drive the car (thinking fuel economy here) and/or track road race (lighter front end weight = better/quicker handling in the turns). 
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    « Reply #84 on: August 11, 2011 - 09:50:26 PM »
    Ok, I have driven a 340 'Cuda and it was like night and day to my 440.  It was very quick and you might even say kind of agile.  I just love my 440.  Not to get off topic, but even my 440 can't hold a candle to a 426 Hemi when it comes to bragging rights.


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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #85 on: August 12, 2011 - 12:06:50 AM »
    I am so happy to see that this thread is still going.  :2thumbs:

    Just incase you don't know...............I went with the Big Block.  :bigsmile:



    P.S.  i still like the small bock too.
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #86 on: August 12, 2011 - 02:33:38 AM »
    The 440 is smother running with the long stroke, and climbs hills with out much peddle work, and does a better job in the wind up and over hill crests. But the 340 was quicker to warm up and E.T.'s lower, for less money, it's a good drag motor. On a long trip you want the big block with hiway gears, and tall tires. Like an Imperial. We had a 1962 when I was a kid, Pop drove back and forth cross country. A space ship.
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #87 on: August 12, 2011 - 02:53:27 AM »
    I've owned both small block and big block cars. That being said, those big blocks always had gobs of power. I never "needed" to downshift when I punched the gas, because it would scoot no matter what gear/rpm it was at. The small blocks needed the downshift to get going, but they could definitely get going too.

    The big thing for me is gas mileage. One big block in particular I remember had a pretty mild build, and a 4 speed. I would drive that to car shows about 20 miles away, and it was guaranteed that I would go through a 1/4 tank of gas up to the car show, and another 1/4 tank of gas on the way back. Got to the point where I had to put $20 into it in gas just for those short little runs lol.

    The cuda I have, is going to be a car I can drive daily (excluding winter). And as such I would like about 20 mpg, but I also want some power. So I picked up a 5.7 hemi (yes I'll put hemi badging on it lol) that I'm going to stroke out to 392 and build up (hoping for around 500 hp). I know that I am going to have more money put into it, then the 440 that I was originally planning on putting into it. But for every day drivability that 440 just wouldn't be able to compare to the standards I have for it. That, and I like the fact that small blocks are a lot easier to work on in these cars lol.
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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #88 on: August 12, 2011 - 03:39:21 AM »
    Quote from: 67vertman on August 12, 2011 - 12:06:50 AM
    I am so happy to see that this thread is still going.  :2thumbs:

    Just incase you don't know...............I went with the Big Block.  :bigsmile:



    P.S.  i still like the small bock too.


    Wow, nice looking motor.   Great choice!



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    Re: 340 vs 440
    « Reply #89 on: August 12, 2011 - 08:39:23 AM »
    Quote from: 67vertman on August 12, 2011 - 12:06:50 AM
    I am so happy to see that this thread is still going.  :2thumbs:

    Just incase you don't know...............I went with the Big Block.  :bigsmile:



    P.S.  i still like the small bock too.


    Wow that a work of art!  :2thumbs: How soon till it's up and running?
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