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    Offline DMZ73

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    Grand Coupe question
    « on: September 23, 2010 - 11:37:52 PM »
    I'm a bit of  a newbie when it comes to Cuda/Barracuda history.

    From what I understand, Grand coupe's were available in 70 & 71.
    Anyone have the "White Book" info on the production #s?  :clueless:
    In particular, I'm going to be looking at a '71 318 car tomorrow with a friend.
    Just want to know the skinny.

     :2thumbs:
    Thanks,

    Dan
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    Alaskan_TA

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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010 - 11:51:30 PM »
    No 'D', just Gran.  ;)

    1971 w/ 318 for US sales, approximately 1073 total.

    Approximately 53 with 3 speeds & 1020 automatics.
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010 - 11:53:26 PM »
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #3 on: September 24, 2010 - 11:47:55 PM »
    Thanks Barry,
    Very helpful as usual.
    The car we looked at today was a basket case 71 GC.
    No fender tag. (long gone) VIN BP23G1B175217
    We Couldn't find the cowl stamp vin  :clueless: :dunno:, and could not get to the rad support to check. :pullinghair:
    This thing was beat. dunno what color it was originally. Coulda been B5 Blue, but not sure.
    I'll post some pics.
    Dan


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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #4 on: September 25, 2010 - 02:24:12 AM »
    Quote from: DMZ73 on September 23, 2010 - 11:37:52 PM
    I'm a bit of  a newbie when it comes to Cuda/Barracuda history.

    From what I understand, Grand coupe's were available in 70 & 71.
    Anyone have the "White Book" info on the production #s?  :clueless:
    In particular, I'm going to be looking at a '71 318 car tomorrow with a friend.
    Just want to know the skinny.

     :2thumbs:
    Thanks,

    Dan

    The P in the BP is for Premium priced. and they had the same crome trim squares in the grill as the AAR but you could only get a 383 B No 440 and No E'MI. The sophisticated cuda
    « Last Edit: September 25, 2010 - 02:28:01 AM by GranCuda1970 »
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #5 on: September 25, 2010 - 11:38:57 PM »
    Dan,

    pics would be cool.  even if it is a rusted out hulk, us BP guys would like to pay our respects.   :angelwings:

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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #6 on: September 26, 2010 - 01:03:24 AM »
    Here it is, in all it's glory.

























    The owner wants 6K for the car. I am sure if anyone dropped him a reasonable offer, it would go. The interior is complete, and in really good shape.The doorpanels look brand new.It has the original seats, IP as well as all interior parts.
    Engine is long gone.
    Figure on replacing nearly EVERYTHING on that car.There are layers to previous "restos".  :smilielol: :smilielol:
    If it were me, I would Media blast if first, to see what is hiding under those suspicious layers of paint.
    Then....
    Firewall......................................................500
    Lt front apron............................................210
    Rt front apron. ..……...................................210
    Lt front framerail.........................................500
    Rt side cowl/pillar patch...............................170.
    Rt side lower a pillar door frame.....................220
    Lt side lower a pillar door frame.....................220
    Door support..............................................180
    RtDoor support...........................................180
    Front floor support 2.....................................60
    Lt Sill.........................................................300
    Rt sill.........................................................300
    Pair of cowl to apron braces ..........................90
    Pair inner cowl/firewall supports.....................100
    Left rear frame rail.......................................260
    Right rear frame rail .....................................260
    Trunk floor.................................................350
    Lt extension..............................................130
    Rt extension..............................................130
    Lt quarter panel..........................................650
    Rt quarter panel..........................................650
    Lt outer wheelhousebv ...............................150
    Rt outer wheelhouse..................................150
    Full front Floorpan.......................................500
    Decklid Filler panel.......................................160
    Hood..(Shaker)...........................................900
    Front fender............................................. 650
    Grille.............................................. 1200-2000?
    roof..........................................................600
    Metal armature for Jig..................................250
    Rotiseree for restoration..............................600
    Fab work(outsourced)................................500

     :violin: :poopoke: :horse: :puke:

    Its a shame this car did not have a fendertag, or cowl #s where we could verify the VIN. It is a 71...
    Dan
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #7 on: September 26, 2010 - 02:16:55 AM »
    A 71 even better, someone get an IV in her STAT!!! :working:
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #8 on: September 26, 2010 - 08:23:48 AM »
    6K? That guy needs to put the bhong down and move the decimal point to the left.
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #9 on: September 26, 2010 - 10:37:21 AM »
    Lol steve!
    No joke, especially if it is just the shell. It is a complete car. I just snapped shots of the shell. The interior is mint. (strange northern car curse)
    I heard this guy got into the car, and once he started to dismantle it, found it was beyond his patience, especially when he might be short on the coin to fix it up.
    Rumor has it that he took it in trade to build another guys challenger, and lost some revenue on the deal.
    The only parts actually missing on the car are the grille and the engine.
    Thoughts?

    Dan
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #10 on: September 26, 2010 - 10:43:30 AM »
    If he brings her from the brink
    a welder and a air hammer are goonna be his best friend.
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #11 on: September 26, 2010 - 12:38:57 PM »
    It looks like it would be to expensive if you got it for free.
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #12 on: September 26, 2010 - 12:49:18 PM »
    Sorry if I was a bit harsh....LOL. I love Gran Coupes myself and would probably be crazy enough to bring a car like this back to life, even being "just a 318 car". The thing is, there are a ton of project cars out there right now and probably half of them are fairly priced (unlike this one...hahaha).

    My blue Chally, while just a 318 car and just a 73, was much less than this car and about 95% rust-free. I've even seen a couple T/A's around the $10K mark.



    Even as a complete car, I would not give more than $2500 for this GC, and that's if the interior is really nice.  :2cents:
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #13 on: September 26, 2010 - 12:50:58 PM »
    Quote from: Alaskan_TA on September 26, 2010 - 12:38:57 PM
    It looks like it would be to expensive if you got it for free.

     :iagree: :lol: :lol: :smilielol: :roflsmiley:

    Dan
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    Re: Grand Coupe question
    « Reply #14 on: September 27, 2010 - 12:29:09 PM »
    Dan,

    thanks for the pics! I, too,  :iagree:  Mine wasn't in as bad a shape, plus it already came running with a 440, and i paid a lot less.  but..... it is a GC!  who knows... with some beer goggles on   :drunk: it might look like a pretty good deal!!    :roflsmiley:

    Matt
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