Author Topic: My first tranny pull (Read 4114 times)

360FISH · « **on:** October 22, 2010 - 02:01:14 AM »

Well it�s time to face the music and get my hands really dirty� my tranny has a gusher out the front so based on what I�ve read here and research I�ve done, I�m going to pull the tranny and hope it�s just the front seal.

Preparation:
Have been reading and watching videos about working on 727�s. (Thanks Tactransman for the references)
I�m going to grab a tranny jack this weekend at Harbor Freight. This one seems to be the best bang for the buck.

http://www.harborfreight.com/800-lb-capacity-transmission-jack-3185.html

My first noob question�

What is the correct way to get the car up high on four (6 ton) floor jacks? I have a nice set of ramps, will they help?

Alternatively, can the tranny be dropped and repaired while the car is sitting on ramps?

I�m looking forward to doing this!

Alan

Chryco Psycho · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2010 - 02:57:30 AM »

just use the floor jack to raise the car , you will probably need blocks on the jack to get it high enough , I would lift under the K frame & the diff . you can leave the car up on stands while the trans is out

brads70 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2010 - 08:49:04 AM »

Another yoke to put in will keep you from running to the store for kitty litter.

I'f it were me first thing I'd do is drop the pan. New filters are cheap, and it gets rid of some oil. ( less mess)

ksierens · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2010 - 08:53:03 AM »

Ok, that topic sounds like the punchline to a bad joke.

Bart · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2010 - 09:40:52 AM »

I'm rebuilding my 727 call John Cope with Cope Racing he has been great to work with.

http://coperacingtrans.com/

Regards,

Steve

ChallengerHK · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2010 - 09:42:48 AM »

I am always antzy about getting tools from Harbor Freight. My rule of thumb is that I'd better intend to use it only once, because it might not be good for more than one use. Even Northern Tool is a step up, IMO.

72cudamaan · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2010 - 10:39:04 AM »

I do hope you meant four jack stands and not four floor jacks? Not safe to work underneath while on four jacks.

Not to mention expensive to buy 4 floor jacks.

tactransman · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2010 - 02:43:06 PM »

That jack should be fine for home use. You might have to slide the trans off of it to get it out from under the car. Above all, BE CAREFUL. Make sure someone knows that you are under a car working and checks on you often. Along time ago, I had a very good friend of mine using an air bumper jack,pulling a trans out, bumper jack slipped and let the car down on him just enough that he could not expand his lungs. His wife found him 4 hours later,suffocated to death.

Rest in peace Cliff 'ole buddy.

360FISH · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2010 - 05:20:57 PM »

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just use the floor jack to raise the car , you will probably need blocks on the jack to get it high enough , I would lift under the K frame & the diff . you can leave the car up on stands while the trans is out

So if I take the front end up 25" or so and place it on jack stands I won't have an issue with those front stands when cranking up the back end... was not sure if weight would shift successfully.

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Another yoke to put in will keep you from running to the store for kitty litter.
I'f it were me first thing I'd do is drop the pan. New filters are cheap, and it gets rid of some oil. ( less mess)

Oil? what oil? hahaha... I'm sure there is some left in there, but you can tell where I've been driving in town by following the trail I left behind!

It's a good point and I'll do my best to wring out what I can...

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Ok, that topic sounds like the punchline to a bad joke.

Hope the joke is not on me!

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I'm rebuilding my 727 call John Cope with Cope Racing he has been great to work with.

Always good to get experienced advice... everyone here has been extremely helpful.
Tactransman turned me on to a great 90 minute video that goes thru tare-down, inspection and rebuild. It's full of great advice.
Youtube even has some good videos on the 727...

I'm trying to stay focued on the front seal and don't want to go beyond that for my first go at it.

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I am always antzy about getting tools from Harbor Freight. My rule of thumb is that I'd better intend to use it only once, because it might not be good for more than one use. Even Northern Tool is a step up, IMO.

I hear you... I have researched this particular jack and it appears to be acceptable. Lots of people have used this one both on this site and elsewhere. Also, see my last comment on this response.

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I do hope you meant four jack stands and not four floor jacks? Not safe to work underneath while on four jacks.

Ha! Yes, four 6-ton jack stands. I'm also looking for more support just for peace of mind... see the last comment...

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Rest in peace Cliff 'ole buddy.

Very sad and very sorry to hear... I went out and grabbed two eucalyptus tree stumps to stick under the rails of the car and will have my steel ramps under the front wheels...
Maybe I'll dig a pit in my garage, my wife would just love that.

Thanks all. I'll post some pictures of Sunday's festivities.

Super Blue 72 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2010 - 06:22:59 PM »

Quote from: ksierens on October 22, 2010 - 08:53:03 AM

Ok, that topic sounds like the punchline to a bad joke.

I don't even want to even try to envision that!

ChallengerHK · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2010 - 06:28:20 PM »

Quote from: tactransman on October 22, 2010 - 02:43:06 PM

Above all, BE CAREFUL. Make sure someone knows that you are under a car working and checks on you often.

Somebody, I think it was Al, suggested to me that whenever I'm under the car I should have the cell phone within reach. Seemed like a good notion.

Super Blue 72 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2010 - 06:36:47 PM »

Depending how high you get the car up off the ground, you might also want to put cinder blocks under the car just incase if the car gets unstable on the jack stands, the cinder blocks will be there as back up. I put cinder blocks under my car ramps just in case if they give way.

360FISH · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2010 - 06:58:42 PM »

Quote from: Super Blue 72 on October 22, 2010 - 06:36:47 PM

Depending how high you get the car up off the ground, you might also want to put cinder blocks under the car just incase if the car gets unstable on the jack stands, the cinder blocks will be there as back up. I put cinder blocks under my car ramps just in case if they give way.

Hey Super.. I have some nicely cut tree stumps that I'll trust over cinder blocks... shoot... I want a lift for christmas!

Super Blue 72 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2010 - 12:17:11 AM »

I'll put in a good word to the man in red for you but I don't know if Rudolf and his buddies can get the lift off the ground!

Use the tree stumps!

360FISH · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2010 - 02:24:35 AM »

It was Tranny day today.

I had a couple veteran tranny puller friends come by to show me �how it�s done�. It�s funny they were like sharks at a feeding� I had to shove �em out of the way to get some wrench time� HA! It was GREAT!

We replaced the front seal, put the tranny back in place and didn�t have any extra parts laying around.

Impressions:
Tranny�s are smaller than I thought, pulling one is easier than I thought (just need patience with the flex plate bolts), this is a great way to make my friends happy (one of them hadn�t done this since he was �much� younger and was reliving the experience)� I�m a lot more comfortable being under a 3000+ lb car on jack stands (with the backup tree stumps

).

Casualties:
I screwed up the end of the tranny cooler lines when taking them off the tranny. Didn�t realize what I was wrenching was not loosening the coupler and was twisting the line. Besides being embarrassed

, I�m not sad about it. These lines were snaked under this car in strange fashion. I see a few places selling them so it doesn�t look to be a big problem to get a pair.

Also need to get a torque converter dust shield to replace what wasn�t there.

Now I just hope the dang leak is fixed!

Will post more when I get the parts and clean up the mess.

Flying �Cuda

Shark attack

The beast

Where all the smoke came from

Alan

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