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Offline 4Cruizn

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return fuel line
« on: November 12, 2004 - 07:10:09 PM »
Ok I need to install a return line in the cuda and since it didn't have a line when I got it, I was thinking the other day, what does it connect to??  I assume one end connects to the sending unit and the other end connects to the carb somwhere??  Or the fuel pump??  I can see it is not a high pressure line, what is the purpose of this return line??  Thanks . . . probably a stupid question but only if you know the answer.   tongue   tongue 


couldn't find anything in my mopar parts manual other than this.   dontknow

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2004 - 11:29:18 PM »
  4C if yours is similar to my 73's fuel and vapor systems, four rubber vapor lines from the tank terminate at the vapor separator; one line leads from the vapor separator to terminate at a charcoal cannister in the engine compartment. Long before i bought my 73, adios cannister. I may be getting ahead of myself, though. What style tank have you got? If the nipples are there for the return lines, then that follows what i thought. If not, someone with a system like yours was originally could tell you the routing for sure.
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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2004 - 05:12:29 AM »
71 up had a vent line to trap vapors & burn them off , & the charcoal canister as 2 4 mentioned , the earlier 70-71 hemi & 6 packs had actual return lines to separate vapors & prevent vapor lock , they  had the vapor separator between the puymp & carb & a retyurn line to the  fuel tank

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2004 - 05:40:13 PM »
Not to hijack but whats the easiest way to bypass the charchol canister? I just have my return line running to it and sometimes i get a raw fuel smell. Its a 74 challenger.

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2004 - 08:03:14 AM »
  Yip, i'm in the same boat as far as missing the cannister is concerned. CP, didn't you suggest using a vented gas cap in an earlier thread that touched on this subject? I'm thinking the original gas caps for Challengers weren't vented were they? That would explain the various vapor removal systems that were used. Or would i need to switch to a different type such as the flip-up style with the smaller vented gas cap that fit under the assembly?

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2004 - 10:42:19 AM »
OK so there is a vapor seperator mounted between the carb and the fuel pump and one end on the return line hooks to the seperator and the other end hooks to the sending unit?  Does anyone know where I can get the seperator or have a picture of what it looks like?  All help is always apprecaited!   tongue  tongue  tongue

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2004 - 12:44:09 PM »
Year one sells them , they  are about the size of a fuel filter 3" long 1.5" diameter

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2004 - 03:47:20 PM »
CP, Thank you once again my friend!!  worship  worship  worship  Big help as usual!   I'll order one tonight and hopefully have the fuel lines finished soon.   grinyes  grinno  grinyes  grinno

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2004 - 06:05:16 PM »
4cruzin, any pics or notes on what the original setup was? 
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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2004 - 10:03:47 PM »
4cruzin, any pics or notes on what the original setup was? 


No really . . . .the car had a 440 in it but still had 5/16 lines and sending unit. The tank was a replacement and had no return line to speak of.  So I have been building everything from scratch.  Been interesting so far!!  ack   Still have some parts I'll have to fight for!   boxer  boxer

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2004 - 10:12:54 PM »
Hey 4C and tfn, let me know if you need a pic of the line setup. Ive got a 70 parts manual that should have the layout. Might take me a day of so to dig it out and scan it in...
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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2004 - 10:33:09 PM »
Hey 4C and tfn, let me know if you need a pic of the line setup. Ive got a 70 parts manual that should have the layout. Might take me a day of so to dig it out and scan it in...

That would be great GoMango!  As long as its not too much trouble . . .  grinyes  grinyes  grinyes

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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2004 - 10:40:08 PM »
 iagree  the one i purchased at the nats last year was complete - except for the fuel section, d'oh  :-X
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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2004 - 09:14:05 AM »
No trouble at all...now where is that book... laughing
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Re: return fuel line
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2004 - 02:13:39 PM »
Hóla "cruz",

are you running original fuel pump or electrical?? Original tank??
If you want a return line..one alternative as I have is a 100% braided line w/ Aeroquip's. Fuel pump feeds direct line to Holley DB, passing the line in the carbs I have bypass regulator and other line back to the tank. Bypass valve keeps the desired pressure in the fuel line and "circulates" the fuel in the system so that it will not be burned hellish hot in the carbs when you drive with part gas.... so two things you'll gain.. electric pump (in case) wont need to run with full power at all times + fuel keeps a bit colder
Dementia already from the year...mmmm ???