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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2011 - 10:49:33 PM »
Nice work!  Once you get it all together, are you going to do any quantitative braking tests?

I'd really like to know what the true benefit is for the Viper calipers.

As long as they don't fade like what I had before....I'm happy!  :grinyes:
How do you test them? Never done that before? Like see how many feet it takes to stop from a certain speed? :dunno:
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2011 - 06:02:55 AM »
As long as they don't fade like what I had before....I'm happy!  :grinyes:
How do you test them? Never done that before? Like see how many feet it takes to stop from a certain speed? :dunno:
The biggest problem is traction, keeping the tires glued to the road when slowing down and how many more brake applications before fad sets in. Filling the wheel with a rotor can actually stop the flow of cooling air that is why race cars have those huge ducts directing air to the inside of the wheel. Filling the wheel with a huge brake disc looks way better.   :bigsmile:
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2011 - 09:40:59 AM »
That would be my method, 10 stops from 75mph (or any constant speed) then take the average distance.

Guess no way to really tell, since you already have the new set-up.

It sure does look good.

Aussie is right, heat dissipation is a big issue.  I'm actually adding cooling ducts to my Mustang this weekend.  I'm surprised you don't see that too much in the Mopar world.  But I guess you can't see it, so it's not as "attractive" as an upgrade.

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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2011 - 08:44:11 PM »
Got some time today to paint and final assemble some things. Gotta install the fast ratio arms and center link. Weird thing about the pitman arm from firm feel, it has no "master splines" to locate it properly? I held it up to the old pitman arm to locate were the master/locating splines would be and scribed the 4 positions. I'll just have to pay attention when I install them.
Good news that the Viper calipers fit like a glove and do not hit anything  turning and when the suspension is cycled up and down!  :2thumbs:   It's gonna take some time to set up the alignment as I'm new at it. The fact that you have to disassemble the upper a-arms to make adjustments is a temperary pain in the butt.



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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2011 - 08:58:45 PM »
Brad that looks great!  :woohoo:
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2011 - 09:18:34 PM »
Brad that looks great!  :woohoo:

 :wave: Thanks again for the spindles! I put them to good use!
Brad
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2011 - 09:20:54 PM »
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2011 - 09:32:39 PM »
Awsome work Brad.
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2011 - 09:35:34 PM »
Awsome work Brad.
Thanks! How's yours coming along?
Brad
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2011 - 11:44:44 PM »
Engine is almost done, then full at it to get trans installed and driving.
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #70 on: April 02, 2011 - 08:08:37 AM »
Engine is almost done, then full at it to get trans installed and driving.
Looking good! :2thumbs:
Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2011 - 03:42:03 PM »
Well the warm weather is here and I'm REALLY itching to drive this thing and see how much it's improved handling and braking wise. I have the car blocked up at ride height. I removed the Howe + 1/2" ball joint and installed the stock length as it caused too much camber gain. I set the ball joint at 3/4" above in the piviot points on the chassis ( took an average of the 2 heights , front is still about 3/8" higher than the rear even with the Hotchkis relocated arm.) Why 3/4? That's what I'm guessing the front end lifts when I get on the throttle while I'm driving. I don't want the ball joint going below center while " normal " driving. I set up a bump steer gauge of sorts, it's not the prettiest set up but it works. So with the stock tie rods the drivers side wheel when I go up on the wheel 3" toes out a total of .274" :scared:  and that's just one wheel so times 2 that .550" TOE OUT  in 3" of travel. I didn't bother going down! What's the use! :lol:  No wonder this think was like a dump truck going around corners!
To fix this I have on order this set up from Howe, should be here in a couple of days. I ordered a 11/16 housing instead of 5/8" Stock car racers just heat up and bend the steering arm to fix this but I'm not doing that for the street!  Unless I have no other way?
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2011 - 08:50:48 PM »
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Gotta install the fast ratio arms and center link. Weird thing about the pitman arm from firm feel,

Brad - you must not have TTI headers. I want these but cannot have them due to my TTIs
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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #73 on: April 12, 2011 - 09:37:55 PM »
Brad - you must not have TTI headers. I want these but cannot have them due to my TTIs
I have Headmans When I was buying headers I noticed on Firm Feel's website that TTI's won't fit. That's one of the reasons I didn't buy TTI's? Money...or lack of enough of it was the other reason. :lol:
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Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

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http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

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Re: Using C-Body spindles on an E-Body ( and A-Body LCA's & Viper calipers)
« Reply #74 on: April 13, 2011 - 11:06:24 PM »
Brad - I am tailgating you here with some of the suspension changes. My Hotchkiss UCAs I was going to install using the cam bolts. Is that not correct as I saw in this article that you mentioned the pain it was to remove the UCAs to make adjustments by turning the HEIMs. Am real interested in the rest of the changes you are making so hope you can summarise once you are done.
Barry (Salmon Arm)