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Offline femtnmax

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Door seal attachment at front top of door
« on: January 13, 2011 - 07:56:56 PM »
At the front of the door, near the forward end of the door glass, the door seal comes up the front of the door...then it ends at the door glass.
There are slotted locations for 3 fasteners.  I do not see any thread type damage to the 3 slots in the door, so I am assuming these 3 fasteners may be plastic push pins.  Is that correct, and if so who would sell the push pins?
Four slots show up in the attached picture.  The middle one on the left is for the door interior panel.  The top, bottom, and right hand slot are the ones I'm asking about.
Thanks for your help.
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Offline Challenger6pak

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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011 - 08:08:20 PM »
Phillips head screws hold the seal on.  I don't have a pic now, but can get one if you need it in the morning.
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011 - 08:20:54 PM »
Phillips head screws hold the seal on.  I don't have a pic now, but can get one if you need it in the morning.
I've got extra phillips head screws.  Should I seal the weatherstrip to the door below and outboard of the door glass?   Looks like a place for water to pour in. Should not need a picture but thank you for offering.

Now that your the expert:) I have a question about the very aft end of the quarter glass where the roof seal drops out of sight.  I installed new Metro seals, but with the qtr glass cranked to full UP position, there is what I would call a large gap between forward outside end of roof seal bulge and aft end of weatherstrip seal for quarter glass.  I thought of closed cell foam glued in place.  Any suggestions?
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011 - 08:22:34 PM by femtnmax »
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011 - 08:32:50 PM »
I would need a pic to see what you mean.  I have a Challenger that is untouched in the seal area.  I can get pics so you can see how Mopar put it together.
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2011 - 01:11:46 AM »
Here is the best pic I have on short notice.  The gap is outside the glass, and the horizontal outside weatherstrip stops short of the roof/glass seal leaving a gap to the outside as shown in the photo, and a larger gap between the aft end of the weatherstrip and portion of roof seal that puffs out on the outside of the glass.

I wonder if the weatherstrip clips are mislocated, and maybe the weatherstrip is too far forward. 

How well does the door pillar seal overlap the forward end of the horizontal quarter glass weatherstrip?
Phil

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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2011 - 04:18:33 AM »
I think you'll have to go through the glass adjustment routine.
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2011 - 09:31:59 AM »
Pics are worth 1000 words.  I hope these help.  These are from a low mileage, untouched, original paint, Challenger.
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011 - 09:32:47 AM »
Roof pics
« Last Edit: January 14, 2011 - 09:35:02 AM by Challenger6pak »
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2011 - 12:12:44 PM »
Excellent pics Ch6pak!   Do you have a photo of fwd end of qtr glass with A-pillar rubber seal where qtr glass meets qtr panel?  In the photo of roof seal inside quarter glass, what attaches to the little "L" angle bracket in the middle of photo?  I have the brackets and don't know what they are for.
I have been thru all the glass adjustments..  Looks like the qtr glass weatherstrip does not fit correct/on the wrong side, or I installed it too far forward.
Thanks again for the photos.  They will be my build guide.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2011 - 12:18:28 PM by femtnmax »
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011 - 12:39:53 PM »
The angle bracket holds the rear interior panel on.  I'm not sure of where you mean.  I will get a pic and see if it is what you need.
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011 - 01:10:02 PM »
Quarter seals
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011 - 01:13:22 PM »
On the pics of the quarter seal you will see a chrome screw in the upper left above the seal.  That is for the stainless quarter top molding.  It has nothing to do with the seals.  I can only upload 2 pics at a time to the thread.  :dunno:
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2011 - 01:16:12 PM »
Here are three more.  You will have to ignore my reflection. 
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2011 - 01:37:07 PM »
don't want to hijack the thread, but as a side note,

what goes in that hole on top of the door?

My passenger side has one, but driver's door does not.. not quite sure what it is for...
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Re: Door seal attachment at front top of door
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2011 - 02:04:09 PM »
The hole is where the stud for the door top molding bolts.  This is the molding that the SE Challengers use.  Your car does not have to be a SE to have the molding.  The molding package could be ordered separately.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2011 - 02:06:24 PM by Challenger6pak »
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