new 1970 challenger body

[BIG MIKE]

have you seen this...

http://www.dynacornbodies.com/body-shells/challenger.php

[pywell]

Yes, pretty nice. Its about a month old but i bet not everyone has seen it.

[Scat Pack Fever]

I was wondering when they were going to build that. I knew the camaro's, mustangs, and chevelle's were availible. I think that is going to change the game. I would buy that before I bought a rotted out body. I remember people having very rough 70-71 fenders for sale for for $400.00 that needed a ton of work. I bought a brand new fender for $500.00 and you can't tell it's a repo by looking when it is on the car. It's crazy to think that they will be making 70-71 challengers again. I wonder if they are going to make cuda's too.

[AMXguy]

I helped a guy with a dynacorn Mustang and it wasn't too impressive, no that's too nice it was crap.

This is just my thinking, why would you pay 16k for a  Tiawan shell when you can buy a rust free or nearly rust free driver for the same money? not only will you have more money in the ricer copy when  you're done but it will never be a vintage mopar just a fake reproduction so the value will never be as high.

I can see why guys from the rust belt might be tempted, but if you watch the west coast craigslist my guess is you'd change your mind and buy a real car.

[Scat Pack Fever]

You have a good point. I was going on the assumption that it was a decent repo. I'm from St. Louis where the cars are always rusted out.

[72hemi]

I have seen the Challenger body and it is crap, the panels don't fit, the lines aren't sharp and the welds are ugly.

[AMXguy]

Well then it's typical dynacorn.

 You rust belt guys amaze me with not only the cars you save but how good you are at it. here in my area if I look at a car with much more than a few pinholes in the lower rear 1/4's or trunk floor I run away screaming like my teeth are on fire.

 I see plain Jane 70-71 E bodies with just minor rust all the time for less than that shell, it might be worth your time to come west if you're looking for a project.

I've never seen this car or do I know anything about it,  more rust than I prefer but not bad at all for someone used to it. if this link doesn't work just look for a 1971 Challenger in the eastern Idaho craigslist. you could buy it and put the other 10 grand you would spend on the dynacorn into the restoration.  just an example.
 
http://eastidaho.craigslist.org/cto/2141909909.html

[pywell]

Talking from experience that car there needs at least another 10k$ of work putting you on par with the shell and you dont get the upgraded steel and you never know when the rust will appear on the old steel. Either way you go you are looking at similar costs to restore or build new. If you want it done right at least. And really on the old body until its dipped or blasted you will never know what condition it is in.

[Scat Pack Fever]

I take it Dynacorn uses their own panels. I have always wondered if anyone has started to build a challenger out of the AMD panels. I guess you would need a jig to put the frame rails in and start from there.

[Final Challenge]

Talking from experience that car there needs at least another 10k$ of work putting you on par with the shell and you dont get the upgraded steel and you never know when the rust will appear on the old steel. Either way you go you are looking at similar costs to restore or build new. If you want it done right at least. And really on the old body until its dipped or blasted you will never know what condition it is in.

My car looked very solid when I bought it.  It has been an education.  The rot is endless and in places that just shouldn't be. A simple trunk floor replacement has turned into a restoration.  Many have told me, just buy a better car.

That is not the way it works.  The better car will have the same issues, once you uncover them.

[AMXguy]

I'm not sure I'd call the dynacorn steel upgraded,  it's thicker granted but like playdough you can shape it with your fingers.

I've bought 20 project cars over the years and not once has there been any big rust surprises provided it spent it's life in a salt free environment, if I can tell someone who knows rust should have zero problems seeing it.  if a trunk floor and maybe some lower rear patches and drop offs cost 10K I need to start a body shop, those are typical rust areas even in a dry climate I would bet that's about all you'd find.

I'm not trying to be argumentitive I just think if rust belt guys knew what solid west coast cars look like and that you can buy them cheaper than repop junk. I just bough a numbers matching RUST FREE real deal unrestored SS/RS 69 Camaro driver for thousands less than a tiawan shell  would have cost me. if you don't believe it I can show you pictures under the car too. 

 If anyone finds a car in my area of travel I'd be glad to look at it for them to see if it's worth your time to see for yourself, I've been given a lot of help on this forum I'd be happy to return some. just watch craigslist they come up all the time.

[Final Challenge]

I'm not sure I'd call the dynacorn steel upgraded,  it's thicker granted but like playdough you can shape it with your fingers.

I've bought 20 project cars over the years and not once has there been any big rust surprises provided it spent it's life in a salt free environment, if I can tell someone who knows rust should have zero problems seeing it.  if a trunk floor and maybe some lower rear patches and drop offs cost 10K I need to start a body shop, those are typical rust areas even in a dry climate I would bet that's about all you'd find.

I'm not trying to be argumentitive I just think if rust belt guys knew what solid west coast cars look like and that you can buy them cheaper than repop junk. I just bough a numbers matching RUST FREE real deal unrestored SS/RS 69 Camaro driver for thousands less than a tiawan shell  would have cost me. if you don't believe it I can show you pictures under the car too. 

 If anyone finds a car in my area of travel I'd be glad to look at it for them to see if it's worth your time to see for yourself, I've been given a lot of help on this forum I'd be happy to return some. just watch craigslist they come up all the time.

If it costs me $2000 every time I travel to look at a car I might want to buy; I might as well fix mine.

What I've noticed, is that many cars are advertised as Oklahoma/ Texas, etc cars.

Bottom line , is that over the last 40-50 years these cars have been almost anywhere but those places.  The guys drag them in from where ever they are buying them and put them up for sale.  I have driven down that road and seen it first hand. There is practically a place that sells car almost every mile or so, and a place that sells trailers to take the new project home, every 10 miles.

My car was solid and garage kept for the last 20 plus years. The metal work that was  done is representative of what was available at that time.  There were no holes in the roof line showing, but my body guy just knows how to find things.  I just can't believe the rust goes so deep into the structure of the car.

If I had good contacts for doing a car search, things might be different.  But the way I see it, it's buyer beware, there is rust in there somewhere.

[AMXguy]

If by somewhere you mean a hole in a floor pan from a leaky door seal or a spot in the lower rear 1/4 from dirt packed into the trunk drop off I agree, beyond that I don't.  cars are mobile and do get moved around, history on the car helps and most of the time you can verify it but if not you can still spot a rust bucket. I've seen some, and I walked.

This is just my opinion based on the cars I look at all the time, if someone wants to build an import muscle car knock yourself out it leaves more real american iron  out west for us.

[pywell]

If by somewhere you mean a hole in a floor pan from a leaky door seal or a spot in the lower rear 1/4 from dirt packed into the trunk drop off I agree, beyond that I don't.  cars are mobile and do get moved around, history on the car helps and most of the time you can verify it but if not you can still spot a rust bucket. I've seen some, and I walked.

This is just my opinion based on the cars I look at all the time, if someone wants to build an import muscle car knock yourself out it leaves more real american iron  out west for us.

I hear what your saying and it makes sence for those that can travel to see those cars. But a lot of them are 3 or 4th owner and have already been repaired/painted etc... the challenger I am working on was in great shape, restored 5 years ago. heck looking at it closely did show signs of problems but without taking it down you wouldnt know that the repair was hacked so badly. Getting to another point I am not a fan of Taiwan parts either, they usually dont fit worth a damn. I have been reading that Goodmark parts are supplied by dynacorn? Anyone know where officially Goodmark and AMD sheet metal comes from? So far my Goodmark parts have been fitting like factory new and I bought 2/3rds of the car.

OFFICIALLY I just went and unpacked all my parts AMD/GOODMARK are taiwan and so far I've been real happy with all my parts.

[AMXguy]

I think Dynacorn makes Goodmark that's what a distributor told me , but I'm not sure.

 AMD is a much better product from what I've found, not as good as original but acceptable.  they are also made in Taiwan but on AMD's own american made dies, at least that's what AMD says.