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Offline 70 RAG TOP

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Question regarding torque straps
« on: January 24, 2011 - 03:07:36 PM »
I have a mildly built 383 w/727 auto and  it has new rubber engine mounts.  I'm not going to race it, but just "get on it" every now and then.

Do you think I would need a torque strap or should the regular motor mounts be sufficient to hold up?

Thanks
Mike




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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011 - 03:13:45 PM »
I raced my 383 Roadrunner back in the 70's and never needed a strap.  I replaced the motor mount insulators when I 'built' the 383 and then raced it for the next 3-4 years and never had an issue with the mounts.  I obviously got on it plenty during that time.

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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011 - 03:24:02 PM »
I turned a little 318 on its side one time after coming out of dirt and hitting dry pavement. I don't think it would hurt to have one.  :2cents:

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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011 - 07:53:05 PM »
If you've ever replaced a driver's side motor mount or had one break at the most inopertune time, you'll run a torque chain from now on...ESPECIALLY, with a 4-speed..
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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011 - 08:12:36 PM »
1/4" X 1" aluminum stock , cut to fit , heat up the lower end and twist, two bolts , drill holes and your done.. 30 minutes & $6.00....

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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011 - 12:05:34 AM »
Schmacher makes motor mounts that have locking metal plates inserted in the rubber. Rubber allows for the vibrations and flex but the plates wont allow it past a certain point. They claim is is unbreakable. And they look stock. Something to consider if you didn't want the torque strap look.

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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011 - 06:28:56 AM »
Schmacher makes motor mounts that have locking metal plates inserted in the rubber. Rubber allows for the vibrations and flex but the plates wont allow it past a certain point. They claim is is unbreakable. And they look stock. Something to consider if you didn't want the torque strap look.

I had those on my 440.

The drivers side still broke.

I ended up with a used Schumaker torque strap bought from a club member which looks pretty cool.
That is still on the car and works well. Does not transmit much in the way of vibration either due to the way it mounts as there is anough flex to let the engine move a little.
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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011 - 08:37:11 AM »
Thanks for your replies.

One more request.  Does any one have pictures of what their torque chain looks like and also the specs( length,size of chain links etc. 
Thanks
Mike

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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011 - 09:35:33 PM »
Not to hijack the link but how did the schmaker unit break? The cutaway shows two interlocking slabs of metal surrounded by rubber.

Did the metal shear off or bend apart? Are you running super high output?

I'm kinda shocked and since I have those mounts, now I'm a little worried. I don't need the air cleaner smashing my ramcharger airbox I just finished.

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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011 - 09:57:09 PM »
I am going to try the late 80s van mounts, they have restrictor plates built in.
won't alow it to stretch.
Can't hurt to see how they fit.
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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011 - 10:09:08 PM »
I had those on my 440.

The drivers side still broke.

I ended up with a used Schumaker torque strap bought from a club member which looks pretty cool.
That is still on the car and works well. Does not transmit much in the way of vibration either due to the way it mounts as there is anough flex to let the engine move a little.

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Same here, as suggested my members on here.( Schumacher torque strap) Nice part well engineered! :2thumbs:
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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2011 - 04:38:50 PM »
Not to hijack the link but how did the schmaker unit break? The cutaway shows two interlocking slabs of metal surrounded by rubber.

Did the metal shear off or bend apart? Are you running super high output?

Maybe they changed the design since.
On the ones I bought way back when they had two tapered pins in the rubber that locked as the mount tried to pull apart. The pins just snapped. I was making about 520hp at that time.
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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2011 - 04:42:40 PM »
Idea #2 didn't last long either. I used a tube that was not strong enough.
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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2011 - 04:44:07 PM »
Idea #3 worked great and never failed but the enngine still moved more than I wanted.
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Re: Question regarding torque straps
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2011 - 04:45:15 PM »
Final solution works best.
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