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Offline t1971Chally

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Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« on: February 16, 2011 - 05:59:45 AM »
Hey guys,

Can someone tell me what the correct jack style (T-style or hollow), base plate, and hook is for a 71 Dodge Chally?  Part numbers?  Pics maybe?

I am trying to pick one up for my 71 Chally and I want to make sure and get the correct one.

Thanks,

T1971Chally
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Offline burdar

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011 - 09:48:14 AM »
Does your car have slotted bumpers like the 72-74 Challengers?  The factory went to the slotted bumper twards the end of 71 production.

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2011 - 01:29:21 PM »
Little details like this are important to some, and I have recently done many hours of online research on the subject. I've studied sizes, shapes, colors, spare tire types and sizes, etc. Most 71 challys and cudas apparently used the hollow masts. All 70 and early 71s supposesedly used the t-type, maybe until they ran out?
There are several good threads on here about it, but basically the 70s and 71s used the seperate hook attachment which is shaped to the bumper (part #8931100). The elastomeric hooks were shaped slightly different and I think the last # of the part # was different. I think that part # is 8931101 iirc. These jacks and hooks are more rare and more $$. The slot type jacks used with 72-74 dont need a hook attachment and are not as rare.
Keep in mind that the factory may have often used whatever was available at that moment on the assembly line, so exceptions do exist. As usual, Dont believe everything you read or hear from ebay or craigslist sellers. I have noticed quite a few misleading ads, especially where 70-71 parts are concerned, since sellers can get a lot more money for them. Ive seen b-body parts, wrong year parts, or even gm or Ford parts represented as being for a 70-71 cuda.

In the end, since Ive spent an inordinate amount of time over the past couple months "upgrading" my bare trunk with jacks and a space saver spare, I have learned a lot and can now identify most of the correct stuff for each year. What a skill! Now I can be the official trunk inspecting a**hole that tells you at a cruise-in "hey, you realize thats the wrong valve stem cap for that spare, dont you?" :roflsmiley:

That said, because of the similarity of some of the parts, theres still a lot of confusion, and I still wouldnt bet my life the parts I've put together actually came from the factory in a 71 cuda or chally trunk. I also would certainly like to see some closeup pics of a known real jack body and the base, just to compare mine.

The only codes I know of are on the hook (with the pentastar), the base has a "U" stamped on it, and the body of the jack will have a date code stamped on the rivet head.



and btw, heres a "before" picture of my jack when I purchased it last month off ebay. Spent about 4-5 hours sanding, priming and repainting it the proper dove gray color.

« Last Edit: February 16, 2011 - 02:03:50 PM by tommyg29 »
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71 Cuda 440-6 Tribute-Limelight-A833 Close Ratio-4 Sp-Pistol Grip-Dana 3.54 Powr Lok-Rally Dash-Shaker (Sold)
92 Dodge Stealth RT-Twin 15g Turbos-SAFC2 Tuned-Mystic Blue-5 Sp-AWD-Rear Wheel Steering-AutoX'r (Sold)
12 Dodge Charger SXT Plus Blacktop Package-3.6L-8 Sp-Leather-Nav (the wife's)

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...the lines on the road just look like dots!....

Offline t1971Chally

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011 - 05:56:04 PM »
Burdar,

I do have the slotted bumpers......

Tommyg29,

Thanks for the information....alot of good detail there.

I know SOMEONE out there has an original 71 Challenger with the original jack who can provides us with some details and or pics!!!!  Come on guys.....give us to some info.

T1971Chally
Ted
1971 Dodge Challenger 440 Magnum
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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011 - 06:44:08 PM »
woah,
you sure you have slotted bumpers because I thought they were 72-74 only?
I didnt know they started the change at the end of 71.
My cuda is a very late 71 (6/71) and it is not slotted, though I know the cuda and chally have different bumpers, I thought the difference was on the ends, and not the profile of the bumper.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2011 - 06:46:25 PM by tommyg29 »
72 Roadrunner 400-4 Auto-3.23 Gear-Black Cruiser
71 Cuda 440-6 Tribute-Limelight-A833 Close Ratio-4 Sp-Pistol Grip-Dana 3.54 Powr Lok-Rally Dash-Shaker (Sold)
92 Dodge Stealth RT-Twin 15g Turbos-SAFC2 Tuned-Mystic Blue-5 Sp-AWD-Rear Wheel Steering-AutoX'r (Sold)
12 Dodge Charger SXT Plus Blacktop Package-3.6L-8 Sp-Leather-Nav (the wife's)

Multiple SRT's, Rams, Dakotas, Caravans and Neons

...the lines on the road just look like dots!....

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011 - 06:54:07 PM »
They started the slotted bumpers in late 71.  That means you don't need a separate jack hook.   The large rivit on the jack mechanism should have a date code stamped into it.  I would imagine that a correctly dated jack for a 71 will be hard to find.  You may end up using one dated for an early 72.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2011 - 06:55:57 PM by burdar »

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011 - 07:30:23 PM »
Guys,

What would be the date of a jack with "8C" on the rivet be?

T1971Chally
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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011 - 08:09:51 PM »
The first digit is the year.  The second is the month.  A=January B=February  They skipped the letter "I".

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011 - 09:48:23 PM »
so that would be March 1968.
Mine is 0F, which means June 1970
72 Roadrunner 400-4 Auto-3.23 Gear-Black Cruiser
71 Cuda 440-6 Tribute-Limelight-A833 Close Ratio-4 Sp-Pistol Grip-Dana 3.54 Powr Lok-Rally Dash-Shaker (Sold)
92 Dodge Stealth RT-Twin 15g Turbos-SAFC2 Tuned-Mystic Blue-5 Sp-AWD-Rear Wheel Steering-AutoX'r (Sold)
12 Dodge Charger SXT Plus Blacktop Package-3.6L-8 Sp-Leather-Nav (the wife's)

Multiple SRT's, Rams, Dakotas, Caravans and Neons

...the lines on the road just look like dots!....

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011 - 10:14:36 PM »
Since there isn't a picture of it...I suppose it could be 68 or 78.

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011 - 12:18:42 AM »
Maybe one of you bumper jack experts can help me with this I just found this jack today in my mothers garage of all places,it was left there by the previous homeowner.The base has U 69 stamped on it and all I can find for markings on the jack mechanism is the up on the lever and un in small letters on lever. My guess maybe "un" is up in a foreign language.The mast measures 34 and 1/4 inches tall.In my brief amount of searching the internet today I have found that some 69 Camaros and GTO`s had this U 69 stamp.So I am guessing this is a G.M jack unless Mopar jacks have this U 69 designation as well.Was it possible that the big 3 automakers used some sort of outside vendor to supply jacks bases since they are so similar? This is just a total guess on my part. My mother said there was another jack in the garage but she threw that one out a while ago :faint:,it figures mothers are always throwing good stuff like bumper jacks and old baseball cards out but they will keep drawers full of string and coffee cans of old buttons from every cheap shirt and coat ever made!

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2011 - 01:57:32 AM »
Hey guys,

Thanks for the discussion!!!  I am learning alot here...so,

What is the correct length of the mast? 

Here is some information on the hook and prices the go for on ebay that I found from another site (not sure if it is correct...just more info):
2931100 70-71 Cuda $113-$189
$88 (hook)
2931101 70-71 Cuda $75 (hook)
2931102 70-71 Challenger $93-$228

I appreciate the discussion (education  :cheers:)

T1971Chally



Ted
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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011 - 02:00:46 PM »
Maybe one of you bumper jack experts can help me with this I just found this jack today in my mothers garage of all places,it was left there by the previous homeowner.The base has U 69 stamped on it and all I can find for markings on the jack mechanism is the up on the lever and un in small letters on lever. My guess maybe "un" is up in a foreign language.The mast measures 34 and 1/4 inches tall.In my brief amount of searching the internet today I have found that some 69 Camaros and GTO`s had this U 69 stamp.So I am guessing this is a G.M jack unless Mopar jacks have this U 69 designation as well.Was it possible that the big 3 automakers used some sort of outside vendor to supply jacks bases since they are so similar? This is just a total guess on my part. My mother said there was another jack in the garage but she threw that one out a while ago :faint:,it figures mothers are always throwing good stuff like bumper jacks and old baseball cards out but they will keep drawers full of string and coffee cans of old buttons from every cheap shirt and coat ever made!

My guess is that is definitely a mopar jack. That U69 on the base, the caution sticker and the body which accepts a hook look very familiar.
Maybe the rivet was broken and replaced with a nut and bolt??
« Last Edit: February 19, 2011 - 02:03:51 PM by tommyg29 »
72 Roadrunner 400-4 Auto-3.23 Gear-Black Cruiser
71 Cuda 440-6 Tribute-Limelight-A833 Close Ratio-4 Sp-Pistol Grip-Dana 3.54 Powr Lok-Rally Dash-Shaker (Sold)
92 Dodge Stealth RT-Twin 15g Turbos-SAFC2 Tuned-Mystic Blue-5 Sp-AWD-Rear Wheel Steering-AutoX'r (Sold)
12 Dodge Charger SXT Plus Blacktop Package-3.6L-8 Sp-Leather-Nav (the wife's)

Multiple SRT's, Rams, Dakotas, Caravans and Neons

...the lines on the road just look like dots!....

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011 - 06:24:30 PM »
Ok cool so maybe it is a Mopar jack then.The carriage bolt is definatly a repair job.Wish I had the hook to go with the jack,might still be in the garage I`ll have to look around some more.I thought maybe the base and the mast section could be from two different automanufacturers but the paint on both pieces looks the same.

So is it possible that U 69 base plates could be from either GM or Mopar vehicles?

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Re: Correct Jack for 71 Challenger???
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2011 - 06:31:02 PM »
ooops,
sorry, I just googled "U69 jack code" cause I was curious and it's possibly from a 69 camaro or chevelle.
Wow, a lot of these jacks were VERY similar. Probably supplied by the same vendors.
72 Roadrunner 400-4 Auto-3.23 Gear-Black Cruiser
71 Cuda 440-6 Tribute-Limelight-A833 Close Ratio-4 Sp-Pistol Grip-Dana 3.54 Powr Lok-Rally Dash-Shaker (Sold)
92 Dodge Stealth RT-Twin 15g Turbos-SAFC2 Tuned-Mystic Blue-5 Sp-AWD-Rear Wheel Steering-AutoX'r (Sold)
12 Dodge Charger SXT Plus Blacktop Package-3.6L-8 Sp-Leather-Nav (the wife's)

Multiple SRT's, Rams, Dakotas, Caravans and Neons

...the lines on the road just look like dots!....