Author Topic: New Passon A-855 5 sp overdrive (Read 74213 times)

brads70 · « **Reply #60 on:** October 31, 2014 - 07:27:21 PM »

Quote from: 1BADFISH� on October 31, 2014 - 06:00:33 PM

I intend on buying one of these some day if they ever come available. Anyone know how the "list" works? Do I have to pay a deposit or prepay? I don't feel like waiting for two years however.

I'm in the same boat. I wanted one but they were not out yet when I needed a transmission. I'll wait a bit till they get caught up on orders and time to see how they stand up.

anlauto · « **Reply #61 on:** October 31, 2014 - 09:24:19 PM »

That's kinda my thoughts on this 5 spd as well. I know Jamie runs a fairly small operation and they have been swamped with orders, but it's not very good for business to tell people there's well over a year waiting list.

I would like to just pick up the phone and get one shipped the same day. If they ever get caught up and finally able to meet the demand on a daily basis....I would love to buy one and try it out.

67vertman · « **Reply #62 on:** October 31, 2014 - 10:22:52 PM »

A year wait.......I wish.

I have now been on the list for two years, sorry I don't know what number I am, and still waiting.

I need a new clutch, and I am waiting patiently for Jamie to contact me and tell me I am next.'

DocMel · « **Reply #63 on:** November 02, 2014 - 12:42:03 PM »

Frankly ,from solely a biz perspective, sounds like Passon needs to really work on their customer service before AND after sales.

These are typical warning signs: If you have poor customer service now, what do you think it will be like AFTER the sale if you have problem. Thats exactly how Kiesler past ownership did their selves in: Got too big and busy, and too quick I guess. Very poor tech support after the sale, very poor after sales commo (when will my transmission arrive, sound familiar?)

You cant explain those issues away, "I dont know how long till I get it", or, "Im somewhere on the waiting list". A biz should never let something like that develop

Im sure Ill get flamed , but I cant beleive those with issues are letting it go like they are: To me, a biz is really only as good as what they are doing NOW, not how good they were to customers a year ago >

Abestos suit on now............

anlauto · « **Reply #64 on:** November 02, 2014 - 01:15:18 PM »

I don't think Jamie should be compared to Kiesler..

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I don't think Passion takes your money up front and I hear all of his products are top notch...

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MY ASSUMPTION: Is that the company does not, or at least didn't have the capitol to launch this 5spd product properly. In a perfect world it would have been nice to order 1000 of each individual piece that makes up this transmission, then just sit back and assemble them as efficiently as possible. With all the parts on the bench I can't see it take much more then 4 hours to assemble a transmission which means one guy could pump out ten a week...400 orders could have been covered in ten months not years....two or three builders and BAM....you're caught up and hesitant buyers are buying like crazy.
I'm thinking it's a matter of parts supply that is keeping production at a snails pace.

MY OPINION ONLY

brads70 · « **Reply #65 on:** November 02, 2014 - 01:16:39 PM »

Quote from: DocMel on November 02, 2014 - 12:42:03 PM

Frankly ,from solely a biz perspective, sounds like Passon needs to really work on their customer service before AND after sales.

These are typical warning signs: If you have poor customer service now, what do you think it will be like AFTER the sale if you have problem. Thats exactly how Kiesler past ownership did their selves in: Got too big and busy, and too quick I guess. Very poor tech support after the sale, very poor after sales commo (when will my transmission arrive, sound familiar?)

You cant explain those issues away, "I dont know how long till I get it", or, "Im somewhere on the waiting list". A biz should never let something like that develop

Im sure Ill get flamed , but I cant beleive those with issues are letting it go like they are: To me, a biz is really only as good as what they are doing NOW, not how good they were to customers a year ago >

Abestos suit on now............

I bought one of the last Keisler kits , luckily it worked out ok for me in the end. I think the biggest differences between these two is Passon doesn't take any money , where Keisler you had to pay in full up front.

Topcat · « **Reply #66 on:** November 08, 2014 - 09:24:25 PM »

Quote from: anlauto on November 02, 2014 - 01:15:18 PM

I don't think Jamie should be compared to Kiesler.. .

I don't think Passion takes your money up front and I hear all of his products are top notch... .

MY ASSUMPTION: Is that the company does not, or at least didn't have the capitol to launch this 5spd product properly. In a perfect world it would have been nice to order 1000 of each individual piece that makes up this transmission, then just sit back and assemble them as efficiently as possible. With all the parts on the bench I can't see it take much more then 4 hours to assemble a transmission which means one guy could pump out ten a week...400 orders could have been covered in ten months not years....two or three builders and BAM....you're caught up and hesitant buyers are buying like crazy.
I'm thinking it's a matter of parts supply that is keeping production at a snails pace.

MY OPINION ONLY

Jaimie over on Moparts mentioned earlier a few years ago, he had some part issues prior to production.

If I were in his shoes; I would address the situation and concerns on all the major Mopar websites what his current situaation and productivity is at.

Moparts
Cuda-Challenger.com
A Bodies Only
Dodge-Charger.com

Also he should mention what his projected output will be over the next 6-12 months.
This is just plain ol good business sense. Hiding under a rock trying to keep up will haunt you.

Communication over the websites is what will keep his phone from ringing off the hook and let him stay busy building these for his customers already waiting.

Chryco Psycho · « **Reply #67 on:** November 09, 2014 - 11:58:10 AM »

Quote from: anlauto on November 02, 2014 - 01:15:18 PM

I don't think Jamie should be compared to Kiesler.. .

I don't think Passion takes your money up front and I hear all of his products are top notch... .

MY ASSUMPTION: Is that the company does not, or at least didn't have the capitol to launch this 5spd product properly. In a perfect world it would have been nice to order 1000 of each individual piece that makes up this transmission, then just sit back and assemble them as efficiently as possible. With all the parts on the bench I can't see it take much more then 4 hours to assemble a transmission which means one guy could pump out ten a week...400 orders could have been covered in ten months not years....two or three builders and BAM....you're caught up and hesitant buyers are buying like crazy.
I'm thinking it's a matter of parts supply that is keeping production at a snails pace.

MY OPINION ONLY

Completely !!
Jamie is nothing like Keisler , I have dealt with Jamie for years his customer service has always been awesome & the products are top notch great quaility & perfect fit , he is a small time operator with big dreams , Taking on this huge project may have stressed his resourses but I fully believe he will deliver given patience .
This is how I define the difference - Jamie has Never lied to me & he has never billed me & not delivered , if he had a supply problem he told me up front , although I never asked for the date of delivery for an 855 , this build huge trust !
Keisler on the other hand has Never told me the truth , when I ordered parts I was told they would ship out that week , months later & numerous phone calls the parts arrive incomplete , more phone calls promises to ship out missing parts that week & they would pay the shipping , months later the parts arrive postage NOT paid ..... lying constantly to your customers builds Zero trust & loyalty but is so simple to fix , lie to everyone & bankrupt the company or be honest & people will work with you !
I wonder if Jamie would offer shares in his company to get production running full tilt immediatly , I would buy in right now to get this going !!
I want one of these 855s also !!

bigblue73 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 10, 2014 - 12:35:53 PM »

Keisler modified a known entity where Jamie has jumped in with both feet and started from square one. This must be exhausting on capitol that keeps a business running. Keisler used borrowed money (what he owed Tremec for the transmissions) plus took deposits to pay Peter from Paul. They are a completely different in every way.

Topcat · « **Reply #69 on:** December 06, 2014 - 08:30:45 PM »

Has anyone actually "walked in the door" at Passon Performance?

What was your reaction?
Did you get to see the new 5 speed?

Did you get any insight on the new 855 5 speed and it's production? Leadtime?

Why hasn't anyone gone there and said here what they've seen yet?

cordodge · « **Reply #70 on:** December 06, 2014 - 09:10:58 PM »

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Just posted this on my resto thread but adding it here as well.

well got some crappy news on Thursday, I e-mailed Jamie just to see if he had a ball park on when my number may come up for the 5-speed. and the e-mail I got back was he couldn't find me on the list. he wanted correspondence between myself and him but I explained that I tried to order/e-mail him from his web site and it would not work, so I called and talked to him and ordered it on jan 22/2014. I did however send him a post from here on that day telling you guys that I ordered it just to show him I wasn't trying to pull a fast one. never heard back from him but I am hoping all will be good as I think I would have been somewhere in the 200s on the list then but im sure now it is double that.so hopefully he will e-mail me back with good news next week bruce

ShelbyDogg · « **Reply #71 on:** December 07, 2014 - 09:05:16 AM »

I've seen the 5 speed every year at the Mopar Nationals. I've spoken with him every year and drooled over the e-body 5 speed and told him I would like one but the price was too high.

cordodge · « **Reply #72 on:** December 07, 2014 - 06:48:47 PM »

Quote from: ShelbyDogg on December 07, 2014 - 09:05:16 AM

I've seen the 5 speed every year at the Mopar Nationals. I've spoken with him every year and drooled over the e-body 5 speed and told him I would like one but the price was too high.

yeah they are pricey, probably very well put together and fit with no mods that's the big deal part of it as well. it's one of those things that I can survive with the 4 gear but 5 would be awesome. just hope I am on that list since jan/14. bruce

msbaugh · « **Reply #73 on:** December 08, 2014 - 06:39:59 PM »

I want I want I want I want!!!! I'm going to casually sit back and wait for a couple of years and get some reliability reports after some of yall put some miles on one of these. Then... when the time is right... BAMMM I'm going put my order in too and not be on a waiting list.

brads70 · « **Reply #74 on:** December 08, 2014 - 06:49:08 PM »

Quote from: msbaugh on December 08, 2014 - 06:39:59 PM

I want I want I want I want!!!! I'm going to casually sit back and wait for a couple of years and get some reliability reports after some of yall put some miles on one of these. Then... when the time is right... BAMMM I'm going put my order in too and not be on a waiting list.

My thought too.

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