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Offline bandt

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Need a hot "On" lead
« on: April 04, 2011 - 07:14:52 PM »
Where is the best source for a power lead in both start and on?

Both auxilleries in the box are being used. The power one is being used for the electric choke. Was ondering where another good source would be. Its going to be the lead for an electric fuel pump located in the tank.

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Brian




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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011 - 07:29:56 PM »
When I had an electric fuel pump, I tapped into the radio wiring for power(not so hard to get at). My pump was only needing 5 amps max, so I don't know what your situation is.

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011 - 12:19:22 AM »
I would run a feed off the starter relay thru a relay and on to the rear of the car....use a 12 gauge wire and put a 20-30 amp fuse before the relay.  Trigger the relay with a feed off the ignition wire under the hood.

That way, you will have plenty of juice without putting a load on the miserable factory wiring.

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011 - 06:23:45 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions. Never thought of the radio and a relay is probabley a good idea.

Brian

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011 - 04:46:24 PM »
Is there an acceptable or proper way to tap into the ignition wire. What is the cleanest easiest way to accomplish this?

 I hate seeing a horrible hack tie in with a tape ball over it.

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011 - 07:01:37 PM »
Strawdog has the best idea.  As far as those scotchloks go, they are NOT weatherproof.  If it's going under the dash I would MAYBE use it.  In the engine compartment they're not reliable.  Over time the exposed copper in the wire and the aluminum bridge in the scotchlok corrode and you will eventually lose connection.  Or worse, the wire can corrode away (I've seen it!).  If you are going to use it inside a protected area, I would fill it with non conductive dielectric grease before snapping it on the wires.  This keeps air (oxygen) away from the wires and slows the corrosion considerably.  The special grease is available at auto parts stores, Radio shack, truck stops and plow service places.

If it's going in the engine compartment I prefer to use splices covered in self sealing heat shrink.  That way they are weather tight and permanent.  None of these solutions look factory so if that is a concern you need to hide them well.   
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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011 - 07:20:41 PM »
Thanks Jesus H Chrysler,

I think I will tie in under the dash, its going to the back of the car anyway. It will be out of the weather and out of sight. Thanks for the grease tip.

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2011 - 05:06:59 PM »
thereis a triple red plug near the ashtray for switched power , I would use that  to trip a relay & tie onto the start relay for power using a fuse

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011 - 06:06:43 PM »
Thanks Neil,

I forgot all about those. Tie in with a bullitt connector and your in business. Great idea.

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2011 - 10:54:33 AM »
Brian, that's a good plan suggested by Neil.  I did that this week, using a bullet connector in the red triple plug to power up a relay for the electric fuel pump that I installed in the rear by the gas tank.  PK
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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2011 - 04:47:59 PM »
Best part is you don't butcher anything up. You want to go back to a mechanical pump just unplug it and you'll never know it was there.

I made up a new sending unit. I used a GM replacement pump that goes in the tank, and a Holley regulator with a return. In tank pumps run quiter and cooler. I have heard externals have a tendency to be noisy and overheat. :2cents:
Probabley way less work, making up the sending unit was a pain in the a$$.

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2011 - 06:34:41 PM »
thereis a triple red plug near the ashtray for switched power , I would use that  to trip a relay & tie onto the start relay for power using a fuse
Isn't the red plug battery feed?

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Re: Need a hot "On" lead
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2011 - 10:55:50 PM »
Not sure.
I'll double check with a tester to be sure, thanks.

Brian