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Offline shadango

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Dumb eddy question
« on: May 04, 2011 - 06:34:28 PM »
Was just out in the garage with my son checking to be sure that at full pedal I have WOT.

I seem to.

But I noticed that the top butterflies for the secondaries arent opening much at all....I recall there being a weight that swings under engine load instead of a mechanical linkage or vacuum.....but is there a way to make sure my secondaries are opening fully under WOT?

Is that as dumb a question as it feels like?  LOL




Offline 72cudamaan

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Re: Dumb eddy question
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2011 - 08:42:07 PM »
You'll never get vac. secondaries to open to wot without a load on the engine, and mechanical will open right up. Please be careful when doing
this, as there are true horror stories of fans exploding under these conditions.
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Offline footin70rt

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Re: Dumb eddy question
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011 - 02:03:15 AM »
First question is what carb do you have? Judging by your comment of the top butterflies on the secondaries I'm going to guess that it is a Carter or Edelbrock. If so the "top butterflies" are an air metering valve for the secondaries and are weighted and only open depending upon engine demand with the secondaries open. Also the secondaries will not open if the choke is on, the choke linkage blocks the secondaries on the right side of the carb.
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Offline UKcuda

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Re: Dumb eddy question
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011 - 04:04:12 AM »
This is about an Edelbrock - the clue is in the thread title.

The secondaries have normal butterflies at the base which should be set by the mechanical linkage to start to open at part throttle and be open all the way at the same stage as the primaries are fully open.  It's possible to adjust them on the car but a lot easier on the bench.

For the top secondaries valve there shouldn't be any opening just from the throttle itself but just with the engine off you should be able to swing the valve open all the way easily with your finger (or a screwdriver if your finger is too fat to fit in there).  When you let go they should swing back closed from the weight on an AFB style, or there's a little coil spring to do it on the AVS style (which Edelbrock calls the "Thunder series").  The spring type is adjustable for return pressure, the weight type is not.

Knowing exactly what happens to the top valve when driving is a problem.  You can't test it just by revving in neutral because the engine just spins up too fast, it needs to be under load. 

It has occurred to me in the past that you could maybe simulate driving WOT conditions by sticking a powerful vacuum cleaner up the exhaust pipe - LOL 

Might be a giggle to try it; you would have to cap the other pipe if it's a dual system.

AND I should add, only with a dry carburettor, or KABOOM goes the vacuum !
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