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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011 - 08:27:58 PM »
I prefer the rear sway bars that bolt to the frame & link down to the diff like the factory bars , the ones that bolt to the diff & link ot the frame I have seen pull away from the frame rail damaging the rail

I was looking at a Hellwig rear bar to match the front I already purchased. I think it mounts the way you say could be a problem.  What other bars besides stock mount to the frame the way you're talking about?  Hotchkis might, not sure though.

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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011 - 09:20:10 PM »
I was looking at a Hellwig rear bar to match the front I already purchased. I think it mounts the way you say could be a problem.  What other bars besides stock mount to the frame the way you're talking about?  Hotchkis might, not sure though.

Later, Jim


The Hotchkis bar has a bracket you weld to the frame rail. It spreads out the load pretty good I can't see it ever ripping off the frame rail, too much surface area.

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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011 - 09:31:56 PM »
From Brads pic, I would say it would be no problem. My pst bar mounted with a u-bolt instead of a bracket. That u-bolt is what pulled through the frame metal. The Hotchkis bracket looks pretty good.  :2cents:
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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2011 - 11:13:41 PM »
Thanks guys, looks like I've got another reason to go with Hotchkis, unless I just go with stock bars front & back which was my original plan ....  but the more I watch that video of the Hotchkis Challenger at Willow Springs the more I really want to go that route.

Later, Jim
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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2011 - 05:30:10 AM »
So anyone have any info on where to find the hollow front sway bars?

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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2011 - 07:30:11 AM »
So anyone have any info on where to find the hollow front sway bars?

Hotchkis and PST's "pro-touring" sway bars . The PST bars look exactly like the Hotchkis set up?
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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2011 - 03:42:44 PM »
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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011 - 06:05:21 PM »
Hotchkis and PST's "pro-touring" sway bars . The PST bars look exactly like the Hotchkis set up?


Thanks....PST' site kind of sucks IMHO......couldnt find the pro touring listed anywhere (unless I am blind) so I did a goggle search and found the link...

http://www.p-s-t.com/pc-4899-176-g-max-pro-touring-front-sway-bars.aspx

Barracuda 1970-74 Front Bar 1 1/4"
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Price:   $229.00

Their standard bar listing is $179.   So "only" $50 more for the wight savings (i assume the larger size is to offset the fac that they are hollow.

Wonder what the difference in weight is?? I may email them and ask that.

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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011 - 06:27:10 PM »
Thanks....PST' site kind of sucks IMHO......couldnt find the pro touring listed anywhere (unless I am blind) so I did a goggle search and found the link...

http://www.p-s-t.com/pc-4899-176-g-max-pro-touring-front-sway-bars.aspx

Barracuda 1970-74 Front Bar 1 1/4"
SKU:   CRSP010010I
Description:   
Barracuda:
1970-74 1 1/4"
 
Price:   $229.00

Their standard bar listing is $179.   So "only" $50 more for the wight savings (i assume the larger size is to offset the fac that they are hollow.

Wonder what the difference in weight is?? I may email them and ask that.


  I never measured it but it is significant! I could hold the sway bar with one finger!  :grinyes:
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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2011 - 08:14:13 PM »
Heres an old post of mine [front swaybar mounting...?] , I went ADDCO front and rear, I could not afford the freight to  :aussie:  with the lightweight ones [go figure] so I got them from Tamraz.cheap,  easy, quick.
Front fitted fine rear was  abit of a pain but look at the end pics to see result. These bars made a HUGE difference to the handling, best money ever spent.  :ylsuper:

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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2011 - 05:26:38 AM »
Heres an old post of mine [front swaybar mounting...?] , I went ADDCO front and rear, I could not afford the freight to  :aussie:  with the lightweight ones [go figure] so I got them from Tamraz.cheap,  easy, quick.
Front fitted fine rear was  abit of a pain but look at the end pics to see result. These bars made a HUGE difference to the handling, best money ever spent.  :ylsuper:

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=71972.15


Thanks for the feedback....

Not sure I can run a rear as my car sits right now....I have add a leafs in teh rear so she sits higher than the stock height.

That said, she is pretty firm in the back already with the add a leafs....

So concentrating on the front for now.

I am leaning toward the hollow one.......for $50 , if the weight difference is that dramatic, makes sense to me.

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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2011 - 07:33:40 AM »
I am growing more frustrated with PST.

Not their productm but their website/catalogs.

I got a PST catalog in the mail the other day and that got me thinking about the sway bar again.  The catalog lists the pro touring bar at $199 for my car.......$169 for the g-max.

So I get online to order.

The site shows the protouring for $229 and the standard for $179.

THeir online description also says that "some or all of the OEM hardware must be used. WHereas the catalog infers that you get everything you need...ie a kit.

So WTF.

Does anyone from PST check in here?

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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2011 - 09:41:23 AM »
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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2011 - 04:47:08 AM »
Called when I got home.......the new catalog price was correct ($199) and free shipping...    :woo:

Ordered the pro touring.

Now, just hope it fits thru my k-member without too much trouble...LOL

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Re: Front sway bar
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2011 - 08:42:59 AM »
Shadango - Great!
I have front and rear sets, pro-touring G-Max from PST.
Still working out a few bugs in the front suspension before I can install them
- Can't get the brake hose off that runs from the hub to the hard line. So, replace the next Line Replaceable Unit (LRU) in the system: the brake lines. 
Ordered them from Classic Industries last week, should be here soon.
- Also received the power brake booster/master cyl from Mancini Racing yesterday.  The master cyl is a lot heavier than it looks.

Anyway, Hope the sway bar install goes easily - Lord knows it would be nice to have a project go smoothly
Let us know how the install goes
Ron