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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2011 - 12:40:05 PM »
Maybe it has been modified.  I need to compare it to drawings I have here.  It is hard to remember what you did to parts, while you were racing, 30 years ago.  I haven't touched much of this stuff in that length of time.
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2011 - 12:56:04 PM »
Maybe it has been modified.  I need to compare it to drawings I have here.  It is hard to remember what you did to parts, while you were racing, 30 years ago.  I haven't touched much of this stuff in that length of time.

Still look nice! Maybe I'll find one cheap enough at Carlisle.... :lol:
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2011 - 10:04:16 PM »
Maybe it has been modified.  I need to compare it to drawings I have here.  It is hard to remember what you did to parts, while you were racing, 30 years ago.  I haven't touched much of this stuff in that length of time.

 I'd be interested in seeing those drawings you have?
If anyone has any scan's /pictures or any info on the Mods to these intake please post them up ! Alan? I just bought one and would like any/all info I can get? I got one with the single Holley 4 bbl and a six pack lid.
Thanks Brad
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2011 - 08:52:55 AM »
The only way I would run one again is if EFI could be installed with injectors right at the end of the runners , I imagine it could be done but it would take some creative engineering to install the injectors  :cooldancing:

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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2011 - 09:06:57 AM »
I used to have an old pic somewhere but here is a six pack deal!

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=15952

Thanks Jason! :2thumbs:  I posted a few questions on there.
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2011 - 05:23:30 PM »
Found this....
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24470541/iii-Off-road-Modifications

Looks like something from a Direct Connection manual? :dunno: anyone know?
Brad
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2011 - 05:31:23 PM »
I'd be interested in seeing those drawings you have?
If anyone has any scan's /pictures or any info on the Mods to these intake please post them up ! Alan? I just bought one and would like any/all info I can get? I got one with the single Holley 4 bbl and a six pack lid.
Thanks Brad
I will get them out. It may take a few days before I am able to get to it.
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2011 - 06:23:20 PM »
I will get them out. It may take a few days before I am able to get to it.

That would be great! Thanks! :2thumbs:  I've seen the mods for the 6 pack lid but I'm curious to the Holley
4 BBL mods? I like CP's idea of converting it to FI too! :bananasmi
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2011 - 08:31:33 PM »
I like CP's idea of converting it to FI too! :bananasmi
That would be awesome if you could hide the injectors and the rails under the lid to be "sneeky"!  :naughty:
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2011 - 09:42:05 PM »
the old engine manuals used to cover all kinds of internal mods for the different tops , I had the single 4 bbl & found I could pool about a cup of gas inside the intake after a good 1/4 mile run

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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2011 - 09:55:47 PM »
the old engine manuals used to cover all kinds of internal mods for the different tops , I had the single 4 bbl & found I could pool about a cup of gas inside the intake after a good 1/4 mile run

That can't be good, if if backfired that could be more than interesting! 
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2011 - 10:10:43 PM »
That can't be good, if if backfired that could be more than interesting!

Ya I agree that's why I have this coming... :scared:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WSN-333221/
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2011 - 11:50:57 PM »
Ya I agree that's why I have this coming... :scared:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WSN-333221/

 
Definitely a wise choice!  I love the looks of those manifolds but someone else would have to tune the thing!

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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2011 - 12:18:00 AM »
I got my old books out.  They have hand drawn diagrams by Tom Hoover in 1975.  I can't scan them. To get then to scan I have to break the bindings.  They are already getting pretty frail. These books are from the 70's.  My camera does not have a flash.  I'll try to borrow one that does and go from there.  The books have everything they used to use including carb jetting. The main book is from 1976.  They were called bulletins.  Later, I believe in 1980, Larry Sheppard compiled them into the Direct Connection Performance Book, or as many called it, The Mopar Bible.  My Dad does a lot with the Chrysler 300's. He knows the guy that had FAST do a long crossram set up in the '63.  They have a puddling problem also.  Then they will backfire and burn the paint between the hood and the fender.  I used to think it was cool to see two fireballs as a kid in my Dad's 300.  Now I know why he was so distraught when it happened. Neil is right.  Injection is the way to go.  I plan to check on it with FAST.
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Re: STR-14 Intake manifold- I need an education
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2011 - 06:24:53 AM »
I got my old books out.  They have hand drawn diagrams by Tom Hoover in 1975.  I can't scan them. To get then to scan I have to break the bindings.  They are already getting pretty frail. These books are from the 70's.  My camera does not have a flash.  I'll try to borrow one that does and go from there.  The books have everything they used to use including carb jetting. The main book is from 1976.  They were called bulletins.  Later, I believe in 1980, Larry Sheppard compiled them into the Direct Connection Performance Book, or as many called it, The Mopar Bible.  My Dad does a lot with the Chrysler 300's. He knows the guy that had FAST do a long crossram set up in the '63.  They have a puddling problem also.  Then they will backfire and burn the paint between the hood and the fender.  I used to think it was cool to see two fireballs as a kid in my Dad's 300.  Now I know why he was so distraught when it happened. Neil is right.  Injection is the way to go.  I plan to check on it with FAST.
:picture: I you have a digital camera, the picture quality is awesome and would load easily for everyone to see :2thumbs:
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