Author Topic: DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock  (Read 906 times)

Offline coolberg

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DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock
« on: July 06, 2011 - 06:52:57 PM »
Hi
I have a 73 Challenger 440 six pack (modified engine) - just purchased the car from USA to Europe. The engine comes with DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan which has very low ground clearance.
I intend to use the car for road driving and no competition. I have a real issue with the clearance and wanted to know why do I need such a huge oil pan and can I fit an original, will that be ok for my engine.
WHat should I look out for and what issues I might encounter.

I am totally new to MOPAR or US cars, so not familiar with all the tech talk




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Re: DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2011 - 07:24:00 PM »
There is no reason why you shouldn't go back to the original oil pan for street use. I have such an oil pan on my 440.

The previous owner must have been fond of drag racing, or high performance in general. The deep sump pan provides more oil, thus it stays cooler.

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Re: DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011 - 09:25:04 PM »
Mancini racing has a 6 qt Hemi Oil pan & pick up kit for approx $160 us

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Re: DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011 - 09:45:06 AM »
The principal behind the deep sump oil pan is it keeps the oil pool further away from the spinning crankshaft. At high RPM, a crank can actually suck up oil from the sump and spin it up into the area around the reciprocating assembly. All this oil in the air is then impacted by the spinning components. The impact is similar to when you slap your hand into water, it slows things down and costs horsepower. In a race engine, this loss can be 15-20 horsepower. For a street car that does not consistently run at high rpm, this impact is considerably less and may not even be noticeable.

For a road going car, an original style pan would not be an impact to driveability. There are pans offered by manufacturers that are not deeper than stock, but are wider to hold additional oil capacity without giving up ground clearance. Mancini Racing is a good source to review oil pan options.

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Re: DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011 - 10:01:09 AM »
Another reason for more capacity is that high volume oil pumps can accually suck a stock pan dry. 

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Re: DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011 - 12:07:24 PM »
make sure there is a windage tray installed withthe new pan

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Re: DEEP SUMP PERFORMANCE oil pan to stock
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011 - 08:50:19 AM »
Great thanx for the promt information on the issue. I have installed a smaller oil pan, so I can drive safelly now, but have to install windage tray for sure, as I have not done it yet