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Offline brads70

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2011 - 06:01:51 PM »
 :woohoo:  Ordered a 451 kit today from Muscle Motors. I was sitting on the fence between a 451 or 470 but it's a done deal now. I also added to the order Cometic gaskets, ARP head studs and main studs, and T&D roller rockers.
I'll drive down and pick it all up in 3-4 weeks ! :2thumbs:   Can't wait!
Brad
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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2011 - 11:32:55 PM »
 :2thumbs:

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2011 - 12:33:35 AM »
:woohoo:  Ordered a 451 kit today from Muscle Motors. I was sitting on the fence between a 451 or 470 but it's a done deal now. I also added to the order Cometic gaskets, ARP head studs and main studs, and T&D roller rockers.
I'll drive down and pick it all up in 3-4 weeks ! :2thumbs:   Can't wait!

thats awesome, I am currently on the fence myself about the 451 or 470, but I will probably buy it as a short block from muscle motors too.

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2011 - 12:02:35 AM »
You know you can use your RB distributor in a B block with a spacer like this:

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/rbtobbldiad.html

I figure if Mancini sells them they must be OK to use.

Later, Jim
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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2011 - 08:17:25 AM »
You know you can use your RB distributor in a B block with a spacer like this:

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/rbtobbldiad.html

I figure if Mancini sells them they must be OK to use.

Later, Jim


Didn't know that. Thanks!  :cheers:
Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2011 - 09:10:41 PM »
Well moving along slowly gathering parts. I bought a new carb. It's a Quick Fuel # Q-850 AN
Also just bought a Hyd roller cam and lifters Lunati #60312 cam. and matching the beehive spring kit.
Neil set me up with the Milodon road race oil pan, Alan set me up with a Milodon gear drive! :2thumbs:
Hopefully any day now Muscle Motors will have my kit ready!
Heads are finally getting worked on this week.
Found a new in the box Mallory fuel pump in the garage I forgot I had!
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Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2011 - 10:25:52 PM »
damn lucky bastad!!!!!!
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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2011 - 08:53:57 PM »
Today was a great day!  :woohoo:  Got up at 3:30 AM and with a rental car drove 6 1/2 hours to muscle motors and picked up my stroker kit. While we ( Darcy my buddy that came to Carlisle came along for the ride too) were " in the neighbourhood" dropped off my dash pad core to Dave at Roseville. Had a great time there! Dave gave us the grand tour, even set us up with Roseville t-shirts! Sure was great to finally meet Dave! He is a class act for sure! :2thumbs: Kinda glad Roseville is somewhat far away for me as I'd be like a kid in a candy store at that place! It's like a little Mopar heaven!  :lol:   Then we drove over to Mancini racing just to have a look around! I was kinda surprised somewhat at the size of the facilities at Mancini's and Muscle Motors. I somehow expected it to be bigger than it was. Not that it matters, great suppliers just the same!  On a side note... I was surprised at how fast folks seem to drive in MI.  Seems like almost every vehicle had " battle damage" around there? Bumpers pushed in, quarter panels wrinkled? Kinda reminded me of the speedway I work at!  :grinyes:
They seem to drive " by ear" around there!  :smilielol:

All in all ... a fantastic day!  I'll post some pictures soon.... too tired tonight!
Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2011 - 11:58:32 PM »
Daves part dept is friggin awesome !!
 MM & Mancini have small  outlets for sure , I think Mancini has a huge warehouse but a small showroom
I am glad things worked out & you got the parts picked up & dropped off .

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2011 - 08:51:59 AM »
a few pictures... looks like Christmas around here!



Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2011 - 01:26:34 PM »
 :sly:  early christmas....  you spoiled brad you.....  :poopoke:
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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2011 - 03:40:41 AM »
Brad, sorry to hear about you having to let your Buick go. The 87 GN was the very first brand new car I ever bought. I owned it about 10-11 years and foolishly got rid of it. Have you looked into Gear Vendors? or better yet, SMR Transmissions sells a "shorty" set up using a gear vendors chuck, and it only adds 7 inches to overall length to a 727. 6 speed Auto! (I have a regular Gear Vendors I am putting in my Challenger). This thread is great! I have a 400 block with the extra casting meat on it being sonic checked for a stroker build for my car as well. Want to go hyd. roller like you did. Road_Runner beat me to the punch on the dizzy spacer. Good luck!
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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2011 - 12:51:14 PM »
Brad, sorry to hear about you having to let your Buick go. The 87 GN was the very first brand new car I ever bought. I owned it about 10-11 years and foolishly got rid of it. Have you looked into Gear Vendors? or better yet, SMR Transmissions sells a "shorty" set up using a gear vendors chuck, and it only adds 7 inches to overall length to a 727. 6 speed Auto! (I have a regular Gear Vendors I am putting in my Challenger). This thread is great! I have a 400 block with the extra casting meat on it being sonic checked for a stroker build for my car as well. Want to go hyd. roller like you did. Road_Runner beat me to the punch on the dizzy spacer. Good luck!

Ya I owned my Buick for over 12 years too. Loved the car but when I got what I had always really wanted ( 70 Challenger) somehow I lost interest in it and never drove it much. SMR is just down the road from my house ( about 20 minutes) they are just too pricey for me. Quality stuff but to me the GM tranny has to many positives over Mopar auto OD stuff.( I know some of the purists will spit on me for that one!  :lol:) I'm not sold on the gear vendors stuff never seen one of driven in a car with one. I'm not big on adding weight to the car either.
Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2011 - 12:55:49 PM »
the GV product is top quality , works very well

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Re: 451" build --- need some input please
« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2011 - 11:15:58 AM »
On a side note... I was surprised at how fast folks seem to drive in MI.  Seems like almost every vehicle had " battle damage" around there? Bumpers pushed in, quarter panels wrinkled? Kinda reminded me of the speedway I work at!  :grinyes:
They seem to drive " by ear" around there!  :smilielol:

You need to come on down to Atlanta and do a few laps on I285 around the city.  We've perfected the whole bump drafting thing in street cars & semis (half serious).  Enjoying the thread and looking forward to future updates.  I'm either going to stroke a 400 or my original 383.  If I go with the 383 I'm leaning to a longer stroke though since the 440 crank will only give me 431 cubes at .030 over.

Later, Jim
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1973 318 Barracuda Mist Green
2014 Mustang GT/CS Convertible All Black