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Offline EMCD

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gear whine
« on: August 11, 2011 - 05:02:49 PM »
i just dropped a 3.23 sure grip rear end into my 72 cuda. the unit and gears looked almost new. i get a whine in 2 and 3rd gear when i let off the throttle. Do you think it might need to be shimmed? what could cause this?
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Re: gear whine
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011 - 06:22:24 PM »
The pattern is not set correctly on the gears . Are the gears new , if not you may never get rid of the whine
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Re: gear whine
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011 - 07:00:12 PM »
so, what do i need to do to get them there?

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011 - 08:18:12 PM »
pull the gear set & change the adjustment , the power side of the gear is obviously close because it doesn't whine the coast side is the problem , you need to use a marking method to see how the gear mesh & determine from that which to adjust to make the pattern right

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011 - 08:56:36 PM »
Awesome! Thanks for the help

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011 - 08:54:40 PM »
ok, the tranny guy is saying $500 to fix the whine... I call BS. Could this really cost that much? Also, how many miles are too may to drive when i have this deceleration whine?

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011 - 09:19:26 PM »
Probably quoting 500 including a new gear set. All too often when a
gear set has a whine, it wasn't set correctly and the noise may never
disappear. The whine is caused by a micro layer of chatter that you
can't see or get rid of.  He may be doing this so that the job doesn't come
back looking like a failure on his part.
If I cant fix it, it's broke
 
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Re: gear whine
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011 - 11:43:22 PM »
ok, could i use the 3.23 gears that came out of my open diff? they never made any noise.

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011 - 11:48:29 PM »
ok, could i use the 3.23 gears that came out of my open diff? they never made any noise.
If the 323 gear set is in the same carrier , 742 for example , a gear set from a 489 will not fit a 742 carrier

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011 - 09:30:40 AM »
Cool. Are they stamped for easy identification? If I left the whiny gears in for a stretch, could it damage the possi unit?
 

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011 - 11:06:55 AM »
the carrier has a # cast on it  along the side of the pinion , as long as the carriers have the same # the gear set can be swapped , the other option is the swap the sure grip into the carrier with the 323 gearset . The whine will not hurt the suregrip .

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011 - 11:09:22 AM »
Cool. Are they stamped for easy identification? If I left the whiny gears in for a stretch, could it damage the possi unit?
I dont know about whether it can damage anything....seems to me, unless the gear itself blows up, no.

But from a more objective standpoint --   A new gearset is probably costing the show $200 or so...so $300 labor.  Setting up a gear set is definitely (IMHO) an art.  Thats why I bought a prebuilt chunk from Dr Diff when it was time to change mine out.

Do you really want to take the chance on paying a shop to swap in a used gear set?  The shop cant guarantee THEY wont whine, since it is a used part.

Sometimes it is better to start fresh and pay the extra.

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011 - 03:03:14 PM »
Second that. Go new, Mancini has decent prices on gears.

I bought a 742 posi w/ 3.55s for $400 that was supposed to be perfect, and it's whined since the day I installed it...

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Re: gear whine
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011 - 10:49:09 PM »
ok, could i use the 3.23 gears that came out of my open diff? they never made any noise.
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Re: gear whine
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011 - 11:41:13 PM »
cool. i'll try that. as alwats, thanks for the sage advice.