Jimmynick, thanks for your feedback, I'm in a unique situation in that I'm buildng a custom wagon and I want the engine to perform well, get good gas mileage and look a little different from a standard Mopar Magnum. So I actually agree with you that I could probably get by with a good Carb but then all I have is another Morpar Magnum with a 4 barrel carb. Again, thanks for your response