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Offline HP2

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2011 - 10:04:39 AM »

 I have thought about those old deusenburgs, patrician sedans, and model a's before, and I guess I was just in denial about the muscle car meeting the same fate (the same fate being a very small, select group of die-hard enthusiasts versus the other 99.9% of the world).


A big difference between now and then using your example is that demand for muscle cars is great enough that you can buy entirely new 55-57 Chevys, 67-69 Camaros, 67-70 Mustangs and 70 Challengers and build them up without ever using a single original manufacturer part. The pre-war collector cars, while expensive and exclusive, never enjoyed demand to the level that reproduction bodies ever became available. The exception being the early 30s Ford which are abundantly available in 'glass and steel. As such, what we will see is a division among the muscle cars as time moves on. The original, factory produced, pedigreed cars, like Hemis, 6 paks, COPOS, etc, will still command large $$ and be regulated to museums and collections. On the other hand, those cars listed above will live on like '32 fords live on, in the hands of mostly average enthusiasts who have no fear about using a non original vehicle as it was intended. Witness teh growth of the Hot Rod Power Tour and Car Craft Anti-Tour as a testiment that more and more people, including younger and younger generations, will continue to use, drive, and enjoy these cars for many years to come.

Also worth mentioning is that unlike the pre-war cars, or even the post war golden era, creating and reproducing hard to find parts is becoming easier and easier. No longer do you need a machinist working for weeks at great cost to create a part. Through 3D model, cad/cam, and other new technologies, prototypes can be built in a few hours by a programmer. Once dimensionally verified, models built and programmed in plastic can be transfered to metal and within a day a part that never existed before can be reproduced in volume.

Yeah, the future doesn't look too bad actually. Granted the mass of public involved in cars as a passion is not as great as it may have appeared to be  40 years ago, but the core that still is there is getting better at keeping these cars on the road and the interest in the cars is actually growing more world wide than it may be within the US. These cars are going to be around with us for quite a while longer.




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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2011 - 02:56:05 PM »
Dunno if it's been said already since I skipped page 2, but ricers need big booming stereos so you can't hear the engine. My Cuda doesn't have tunes, my Charger rarely has the stereo on and my truck is usually on a comedy channel on satellite because they have V8s. When I'm in the PT Cruiser or the wife's Honda I need tunes so I don't have to hear the weedwacker under the hood revving up at the lights
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2011 - 02:59:41 PM »
Those Weedwhacker will be the hot rods in the future, the new cars will run on rose pedals and have pretty bubbles that change color as you drive and will have bambi feed dispensors on the bumpers!  :biggrin:

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2011 - 03:31:23 PM »
Those Weedwhacker will be the hot rods in the future, the new cars will run on rose pedals and have pretty bubbles that change color as you drive and will have bambi feed dispensors on the bumpers!  :biggrin:
I'm sure there will be a similar conversation between those of that generation in 20 years or so, saying how nobody seems to appreciate the old fart-cans anymore.  And how concerned they'll be that nobody really appreciates that classic old bolt rattling sound of pure bass coming from a trunk full of speakers.  How shocked and sad they'll be at how many of those old cars were actually crushed into rice cakes and recycled instead of being restored.  We'll see.
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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2011 - 08:51:13 PM »
LOL!! You have a special way with Words!! :roflsmiley: :smilielol:

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2011 - 09:44:48 AM »
My point exactly that in 20 years the boom boom boxes will have made a generation of deaf people and they would not be able to tell the difference between a growling V8 or a fart can.   :scared:   :smilielol:
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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2011 - 01:35:52 PM »
Dunno if it's been said already since I skipped page 2, but ricers need big booming stereos so you can't hear the engine. My Cuda doesn't have tunes, my Charger rarely has the stereo on and my truck is usually on a comedy channel on satellite because they have V8s. When I'm in the PT Cruiser or the wife's Honda I need tunes so I don't have to hear the weedwacker under the hood revving up at the lights

That's so funny you'd say that. The other day my sister went with me somewhere and we took mom's toyota. I had the radio on the whole time and she asked why I never listened to the radio in the Cuda (even when driving by myself), but in anything else the family owns, the first thing I do is turn on the tunes. She thought I was nuts when I said there's no music in the world as sweet to listen to as the sound of my cammed and bored 383  :thumbsup:

Those Weedwhacker will be the hot rods in the future, the new cars will run on rose pedals and have pretty bubbles that change color as you drive and will have bambi feed dispensors on the bumpers!  :biggrin:

Bravo! Couldn't have said it better, or preticted it more accurately myself!   :smilielol:

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« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2011 - 04:12:56 PM »
I remember listening to some teenage kids talking "gears" at a local cruise-in. From the conversation I could tell that several of them were throwing out a lot of techno lingo but didn't have a clue as to the difference between a spark plug and a fuel injector. A few of them came over to my buddies Barracuda and asked about the car. He told them it had two valves per cylinder to which one responded, "WOW, I didn't know they had that kind of technology back then". Got to love it!!  :roflsmiley: :smilielol: :roflsmiley:

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2011 - 04:42:04 PM »
Funny, I understand the basics behind the combustion engine and have had some training with deisel engines that is why I am here ripping through members threads and discussions so I don.t sound like those kids. I wanted to build my 440 by myself and save the dough right here in the garage. O will probably send it to the shop and pay the 5000 bucks but would rather do it myself. After the shop was done machining I think I did a pretty good job assembling the shortblockwith clevite assembly grease and moly assembly lube., torqued everything down to factory specs right out of the 70 book.  I need to retorque the rod bolts after C O D Y reminded me that assembly lube need to be on the bolts to get accurate torque. :pullinghair: but I am learning.

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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2011 - 06:02:30 PM »
But that's just it, though, you admit you're still learning (as do I). These kids go out and get a civic and watch 'Fast and the Furious' one too many times and learn terms like double clutch and piston rings. Then they take this new vocabulary to the nearest car meet and start talking as if they're experts. They start saying how much horsepower per liter they're putting out and how their power to weight is lightyears beyond any old American Iron, and they call it a day. They don't understand that there's a lot more to motorsport and car enthusiasm than going really, really fast. Old muscle cars have personality and a charm about them that no amount of technology, computer interference, and R&D can match. It takes soul and heart to get the feeling you get when you slide behind the wheel of a big block Cuda. And I don't care how much money they dumped into it, or how fast it takes a quarter mile; their EVO doesn't come close to the feeling you get when you're sitting at a red light in your challenger and you notice everyone in the car next to you is snapping pictures of your ride.

I remember listening to some teenage kids talking "gears" at a local cruise-in. From the conversation I could tell that several of them were throwing out a lot of techno lingo but didn't have a clue as to the difference between a spark plug and a fuel injector. A few of them came over to my buddies Barracuda and asked about the car. He told them it had two valves per cylinder to which one responded, "WOW, I didn't know they had that kind of technology back then". Got to love it!!  :roflsmiley: :smilielol: :roflsmiley:

That is hilarious!    :rofl:

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2011 - 06:05:45 PM »
Well said! Although I wish I could cut a chunk of some of these oldschoolers brain matter when it comes to modifying these engines and sow it into my own. Is there a Quack in the House!

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2011 - 06:09:01 PM »
There is hope my daughter scored a qualifying run today at sykart racing!!! 4 more and she upgrades to the 9 horse karts. my wife is one of only 3 women qualified in the 9 horse Karts, I am proud!!

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2011 - 07:35:06 PM »
There is hope my daughter scored a qualifying run today at sykart racing!!! 4 more and she upgrades to the 9 horse karts. my wife is one of only 3 women qualified in the 9 horse Karts, I am proud!!

That is awesome   :2thumbs:  took the wife to a car show today she's eyeballing new Challengers   :woohoo: :woohoo:
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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2011 - 10:04:22 PM »
Maybe she'll let you buy one  :hyper: :jumping:

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Re: Kids These Days
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2011 - 01:12:56 AM »
There is hope my daughter scored a qualifying run today at sykart racing!!! 4 more and she upgrades to the 9 horse karts. my wife is one of only 3 women qualified in the 9 horse Karts, I am proud!!

It's something to be proud of! Good on ya and congrats to your wife and daughter! Exciting stuff!

And as soon as you find your quack, send him my way.  ;)