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any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« on: September 23, 2011 - 12:11:12 AM »
Just wondering if the closed chambered heads would make enough difference to make it a worthwhile swap...stock 70 bottom end and engle k58 cam




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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011 - 12:51:09 AM »
Depends. The 906 heads have a larger exhaust valve if the "915" heads aren't the ONE YEAR ONLY 1967 GTX 440 Magnum heads that were closed chamber. However, the closed chamber of the 915 will definately help compression. This was the hot ticket back in the day when these engines were like the new Hemi today...Most "915" heads today are the "LP" version with the 2.08 In. And 1.60 Ex. valves.
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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011 - 10:14:42 PM »
IMO definatly , the flat top piston needs to be close to the deck to be optimum , but it will bump the compression & kill the detonation common with the open chamber heads , 516 had the smaller exhaust valves , 915 & 906 have the 1.72 exhuast , I usually instally the 1.81 valve

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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011 - 10:20:18 PM »
it is smart to run a tighter quench with a closed chamber . like he said good call
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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011 - 01:09:06 PM »
So if they are smaller exhaust valve heads, what's an appx cost of getting the larger ones installed

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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011 - 08:59:57 PM »
That depends on a few factors.  You can use the exhaust valves from the 906 heads, if they are all good.  Most of the time they are all good.  A machine shop will have to cut the hole larger and then do a valve job on the exhaust side.  Depending on the heads overall condition you may just want to do all the valves in the 915.  Depending on what needs done will determine your cost.  Your local machine shop should be able to give you a price on things.  Last valve job I had done was $15 a valve. It is a worthwhile endeavor even if you need a few valves and a complete new valve job on the heads.
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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011 - 09:41:37 PM »
nice to get new seats that don't require leaded gas as well when the larger valves are installed

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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011 - 11:10:45 PM »
To me small valve heads are a Bonus as stated above , have them cut for hard seats & install new valves , either 1.74 factory or the bigger 1.81 which I always use
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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011 - 01:24:17 PM »
those heads work very well
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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2011 - 01:48:04 PM »
To me small valve heads are a Bonus as stated above , have them cut for hard seats & install new valves , either 1.72 factory or the bigger 1.81 which I always use
Hate to do this Chryco, but don't you mean 1.740 Valves?
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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2011 - 02:30:22 PM »
Yes he does :thumbsup:

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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2011 - 05:01:29 PM »
Fixed Thanks ... brain fart

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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011 - 09:18:06 PM »
      :bigsmile:       so a set worth $150?

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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011 - 09:38:29 PM »
redone for a stock type set up i would say yes . used  hell they where 50$ when i bought them as cores
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Re: any benefit to swapping 915 in place of 906's
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011 - 09:03:06 PM »
So basically I am looking just to get my car going, trying to make the best of thigs right now, limited on funds like all of us....so I found a set of 1.6 ex valve heads, said they need gone though for $150...is this gonna be a worthwhile endeaver or should I just hold off ...honestly I jus want to maximize...I have a 543 stroker kit that I will be in the market for indy's at a later date...but am thinking the 915's right now just to get me up and runnin..my 906's need a full valve job and the guides are loose in my 452's