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Offline EMCD

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How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« on: October 30, 2011 - 06:19:38 PM »
Taking my 360 to a pro engine shop. How many hours would it take to strip it down to a bare block? I will be delivering the motor out of the car to the shop. Also, how many hours to remove an engine from my car, if I was a pro?




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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011 - 06:22:00 PM »
I'd say 2-3 hours to inspect and tear it down. 3-4 to remove if from the car?
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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011 - 06:28:58 PM »
1-2 to tear it down.
1 hour to pull the motor if you know what/where everything is.


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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011 - 07:07:56 PM »
Cool. Thanks. If my crank bearing have failed. What the chance that the whole motor is shot?

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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011 - 07:13:13 PM »
Cool. Thanks. If my crank bearing have failed. What the chance that the whole motor is shot?

It depends.  How much damage was done to the block when they failed.  If you just spun a bearing, then the damage should be minimal.



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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011 - 07:29:24 PM »
Don't forget about 1 or 2 hours to remove all of the accessory components
on the engine. No sense in paying the shop to take off water pump manifolds
and probably most of the sheetmetal. And drain the oil either way. Not
draining the oil is the surest way to pizz off the machine shop.lol
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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011 - 08:07:14 PM »
Here lies the big mistake , tearing an engine down quickly is easy but you can learn a lot from wear patterns inside a engine so often taking a little more time can help , for example looking at the main brgs if 1 or two are worn one one side the block mayhave shifted & needs an align bore . a lot can be learned from careful teardown

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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011 - 08:31:45 PM »
Here lies the big mistake , tearing an engine down quickly is easy but you can learn a lot from wear patterns inside a engine so often taking a little more time can help , for example looking at the main brgs if 1 or two are worn one one side the block mayhave shifted & needs an align bore . a lot can be learned from careful teardown

 :iagree:   That's why I said  2-3 hours.
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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011 - 09:23:39 PM »
Nice, thanks for the good advice as always. The motor should be pulled minus componets on Monday. Hopefully by Friday we'll understand what happened. One big concern for me was that the upper half was sounding like a diesel right before I turned the motor off. Hopefully, nothing too bad happened.

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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011 - 09:40:23 PM »
Nice, thanks for the good advice as always. The motor should be pulled minus componets on Monday. Hopefully by Friday we'll understand what happened. One big concern for me was that the upper half was sounding like a diesel right before I turned the motor off. Hopefully, nothing too bad happened.

First thing is pull off the valve covers and check out the valvetrain. Look for loose rocker arms, stuck valves etc... Good luck , here's hoping it's something easy, and cheap? :sadwavey:
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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011 - 10:40:02 PM »
a lot can be learned from careful teardown
These are words of wisdom.
When you go back together its the same idea.  The short block/engine will be put together and disassembled several times to fit check everything....then finally be assembled for real one last time.   
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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011 - 12:06:00 AM »
I have seen engines fail just because the rocker shafts were over torqued , it ovaled the shaft & caused the rockers to sieze on the shaft & hold the valve open causing the piston to brak the head off the valve which windowed the block & broke the piston , take off the intake & carb & start again  :faint:

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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011 - 10:08:17 AM »
it was sounding like a diesel because it was not getting any oil pressure.

You should find out why when you take it apart.

I was going to say 30 minutes, but then I have impact wrenches :D

If you have a flat tappet cam, be sure to keep the lifters in order so you can put them back on the right cam lobes if there is nothing wrong with them or the cam.

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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011 - 10:21:46 AM »
 It was weird when it was dieseling. The oil pressure gauge was still showing 30 psi. Any clues?

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Re: How many hours to tear down a Motor for a pro?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011 - 04:22:35 PM »
If it was running and your tearing it down for a rebuild, I'd say a couple of hours. If you have issues and potential damage, it may take twice as long to backtrack and identify the various damage and cause/effect of each failure.