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Offline Grec

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Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« on: November 21, 2011 - 01:05:43 PM »
So... during my car's 38-year life, she's lost 3 of her original windows.

What I have now is original 1/4 windows and the passenger window. The rest are all aftermarket. :-(

I would like the replacement windows to have the markings as original. Anyone ever heard of anyone producing a stamp to replicate this?
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011 - 01:22:22 PM »
Well....ECS sells date coded glass, but I'm guessing that's more expensive than the option you were hoping for:

http://www.ecsautomotive.com/productsDCG.php

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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011 - 03:25:20 PM »
Oh yeah. I'm definitely not replacing the perfectly good glass I have now.

Besides, I think ECS only deals with 70-71 e bodies. Not the red-headed-step-child 72+s.  :-)
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011 - 07:01:01 PM »
you might try a glass etching kit,,they make stencils that look good,,of course you might have to make your own ,,I have seen some nice work on bigger areas,and some small areas,I dont know if it can be done in the size you need but hey it might be worth checking out
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011 - 08:20:44 PM »
Are the originals even etched? I could swear one of my original pieces of glass has the stamping and it appears almost smudged. Like whatever they stamped with had a bit too much pressure on it so it bled a bit. Not crisp like the others...
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011 - 08:36:13 PM »
I cant say it was originally etched but it might be an option was all I was saying,, I dont know of a stamp,,but maybe somebody on here does
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011 - 11:13:57 PM »
you might try a glass etching kit,,they make stencils that look good,,of course you might have to make your own ,,I have seen some nice work on bigger areas,and some small areas,I dont know if it can be done in the size you need but hey it might be worth checking out

I was thinking an etching kit also.  I remember the police department having some sort of a VIN ID thing going on to deter thieves by putting your VIN number on all the glass.  Wonder how they do it, might be able to make your own.

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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011 - 11:55:29 PM »
I was thinking an etching kit also.  I remember the police department having some sort of a VIN ID thing going on to deter thieves by putting your VIN number on all the glass.  Wonder how they do it, might be able to make your own.

It was an acid etch.
We used to do it at the dealership. Tape the stencil and wipe the acid over the template.
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2011 - 06:11:53 AM »
Interesting.

Took a good look at my three remaining marked windows, and I guess what I thought was paint that had bled, could very well have been a lose stencil where the acid etch bled a bit.

Another interesting note, passenger 1/4 window marking reads correctly... driver's side is applied to outside of glass vs inside and reads backwards. The craftsmanship and attention to detail evident in 70s American auto production is simply breathtaking. Lol.

Did some poking around and it looks like theres places that will do custom stencils for you based on artwork you send. Then you just hit them with this etching paste and voila. Etched glass.

I'm confident that I can duplicate these markings exactly in Illustrator.

Honestly, I'm shocked that no one is selling something like this considering the $$$ people spend getting original glass for nothing but these markings...

If it goes well, I could see making a few different sets so other years could be covered.
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2011 - 09:13:28 AM »
Call ECS and talk to Dave.  I'm almost possitive I heard him tell someone at the Mopar Nats he could put a date code on an original piece of glass.  I know they have to buff off the DOT markings on the new glass they sell before date coding them.

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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2011 - 10:13:10 AM »
Yeah... there's definitely a way to do it.

I may call him to find out what method they are using. Acid vs. paint.

I swear looking at mine they don't look etched...

This is the clearest one of the 3 I have. The others are blurrier... as if paint bled on the stencil. They are also pretty much white, vs what etched glass usually looks like.

(shrugs shoulders)

At any rate... I have the graphic file just about nailed, I think. :-)

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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011 - 07:49:43 PM »
MMMM... a bit more work on the pentastar
Not trying to be mean or anything, but, your pentastar needs some tweaking.
The rest looks great

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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011 - 08:10:58 PM »
Looks pretty good to me, Nice!

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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011 - 10:27:20 AM »
Looks too neat, people will know it's fake!  :smilielol:

Yeah, the one on the window does look a little smeared or something...  :sly:
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Re: Does this exist? A stamp to replicate OEM glass markings?
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2011 - 10:33:38 AM »
I can,t tell the difference, although it looks, "New". Mine is 40 yr old faded weathered.