CCW Permit

[moparmaniac59]

"Good thing that happened in VA, if that happened in MA the customer would still be in jail.  Commonwealth vs Klein,  Julian vs Rendazzo, etc"


In this state, if you shoot a "fleeing felon" in the back, you're in big trouble.
The only reason the citizen wasn't charged (because he did plug the thug in the back), was he said he feared for his life. There were many witnesses in the store that corroborated his story that the perp did in fact threaten everyone in the store verbally while pointing his gun & waving it at the crowd. That's all it took. You have a right to protect your life!! One less dirt bag on the planet. But every dirt bag has a mother & father. I feel sorry for the parents.

                                                                  Matt B.

[73Chally]

"Good thing that happened in VA, if that happened in MA the customer would still be in jail.  Commonwealth vs Klein,  Julian vs Rendazzo, etc"


In this state, if you shoot a "fleeing felon" in the back, you're in big trouble.
The only reason the citizen wasn't charged (because he did plug the thug in the back), was he said he feared for his life. There were many witnesses in the store that corroborated his story that the perp did in fact threaten everyone in the store verbally while pointing his gun & waving it at the crowd. That's all it took. You have a right to protect your life!! One less dirt bag on the planet. But every dirt bag has a mother & father. I feel sorry for the parents.

                                                                  Matt B.

They've changed the rule in TX to include your entire property (Castle Domain or something like that), but my instructor always said "shoot him on the porch, drag him inside, then shoot him in the stomach".

[GranCuda1970]

Drag him back out or he will bleed on the hardwood or carpet!!

[Tropicalcats]

I will be traveling from Ohio to Florida and the only state that does not except my Ohio CCW along the way is Ga. When I hit the state line I plan on putting the weapon in an under the seat locking safe. Anyone have any experience with traveling through states that do not honor your CCW permit?

[cudabeforeIdie]

You have a right to protect your life!! Matt B.

In MA, the criminals have more rights than the law abiding do.

[cudabeforeIdie]

I will be traveling from Ohio to Florida and the only state that does not except my Ohio CCW along the way is Ga. When I hit the state line I plan on putting the weapon in an under the seat locking safe. Anyone have any experience with traveling through states that do not honor your CCW permit?

Done this numerous times. Bottom line is this, if you are 'legal' to have the gun at Point A, and 'legal' to have the gun at Point B, the gun MUST be unloaded and in a locked container in an area completely unaccessable to you, such as the trunk, when you're traveling through an area where the gun is not legal. I would put my gun in a locked case in the trunk, then put the ammo in another locked container.

I did a lot of competitive shooting across the country. In many instances my permit was not acceptable in the state I was competing in, there is an exemption for competitive shooting.  I would transport the gun/ammo in the way detailed above, and made sure I had the original copy of my entry confirmation for the competition on me at all times. This includes flying with the guns too.

[Killer_Mopar]

I signed up for classes the day I turned 21 and have been carrying ever since. I recommend it to just about anyone responsible. Im not going into all the debating because ultimately everyone has already made up their mind to whether they want to carry or not. Just remember, many criminals have guns and some of them wont think twice about using them. I've seen a couple recommendations for the Ruger LCP - I had one with lasergrips and heres my review of it.  First the good: Its cheap, small, light and is a 380 (weakest round I would ever consider carrying). Heres the bad: lacks real sites, lacks a safety, has a terrible trigger, sucks to shoot past 20 rounds, and is a 380. Now thats not to say its a bad gun, I used my LCP for summer carry since they first came out and it really is an excellent gun for the price. With that said, my recommendation is the Kimber Solo - it replaced my LCP and Kimber Ultra Carry II. The good is that it has real sites, a safety, a great trigger, its still pretty light, and its 9MM (which is what I really the weakest round I feel comfortable with). The bad is that its MUCH more expensive than the LCP and is slightly larger (but I still use the same holster from my LCP) That's just my recommendation but I always say its best to research, figure out a budget, go to a gun store, see what feels good, GO HOME, research some more, and then make your decision.

[tommyg29]

The ruger lcp definitely is not a target practice pistol. Its not real comfortable to fire (too small for large hands), and the trigger is heavy, and yes, most experts consider .380 as barely adequate for personal defense, but the laser IMO is much more practical than sights, especially at night. There are several similar solutions out there, such as the Taurus, etc.
Keep in mind that unless you are very well trained or are in law enforcement, if you ever have to use it you will likely be in panic mode, and close range. Like insurance, hopefully you will never have to use it.

[cudabeforeIdie]

Though no one asked, here's my opinion on lasers as a firearms instructor (police/civilian/military) and ex-professional competitor:

Extreme tactical value: no matter what, that little red dot won't wipe off the center of mass of the bad guy.
Extreme prosecutorial value: "Mr. Smith, please explain to the jury why you equipped the weapon you murdered Mr. Jones with
with a laser sighting system used commonly by Arnold Shwartenager (sp?) in all The Terminator movies..."
Extreme pucker factor: it uses a battery, batteries will fail when you need them the most.
Other disadvantages to laser sights: Its very difficult to accurately 'sight' the gun to the laser, and even if you get it 'close', a minor
bump or nudge can effect the lasers' zero. Additionally, if you find yourself in a protracted gunfight, and if enviromental conditions such
as smoke or fog are present, its quite easy for the opponents to 'follow' that little red line right back to your area of concealment.

My main carry gun is equipped with Trijicons. Perfect zero, no batteries, and requires the same of training as any other standard sighted gun.
Just MHO on lasers.

[mopardave]

have had my CPL for over 10 years now, Primary carry piece is a glock 26, other is a berretta 9000S or 92FS brigadier


http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo/


Today - there are approximately 294680 Michigan CPL holders.

[dodj]

no matter what, that little red dot won't wipe off the center of mass of the bad guy.

They are difficult to see on the feathers of a grouse I've noticed though..

[Road_Runner]

I will be traveling from Ohio to Florida and the only state that does not except my Ohio CCW along the way is Ga. When I hit the state line I plan on putting the weapon in an under the seat locking safe. Anyone have any experience with traveling through states that do not honor your CCW permit?

You should be able to carry your gun in your car while driving through Georgia, its considered the same as having it in your own home.  Here's a general description of the law here plus a link to the site I pulled it from:

Basically, to carry a long gun you do not have to have a license to carry as long as you are not prohibited from owning a firearm. To carry a handgun openly or concealed in the state of Georgia (other than on your property or inside your home, car, or your place of business), you must have a Georgia Weapons Carry License (or the older Georgia Firearm License) issued under code 16-11-129. To carry a knife designed for offense with a blade over 5 inches you must have a Georgia Weapons Carry License (or the older Georgia Firearm License) issued under code 16-11-129. There are exceptions, read below to find out what those are.

http://www.georgiapacking.org/law.php

Later, Jim