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Offline AW-100

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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2012 - 08:33:31 AM »
Well I bought a Dodge Ramcharger with bolt-on spacers mounted on the rear, as it turned out! And one month after purchase all of a sudden I almost lost one wheel (with the spacer) after offroading. The previous owner obviously didn't re-torque! I wanna buy new ones, but then I'll be sure to re-torque every time I have the wheels off! So yeah, user failure, not tech failure.
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Offline Robb

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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2012 - 06:05:31 PM »
Have had 1.25 inch spacers on my 4Runner for 4 years now.     All 4 corners

just ebay-special spacers.   

I offroad and daily drive it .   Never an issue.   EXCEPT that tire places wont service the wheels whatso-ever (not even patch a flat) because I have spacers.   Gotta do the only driveway tire-rotation shuffle, and take tires/rims in to get fixed or to get a new tire.


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Offline GoodysGotaCuda

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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2012 - 08:54:18 PM »
I have about 7/16" of rear spacers(shims) on my Barracuda's Torque Thrust Ms. I added 3" studs to keep proper lug engagement and have never had a problem with them. ~4years on them.

My Jeep has 1.5" aluminum non-hubcentric/lug centric wheel spacers with 35s. 40,000 street miles and flat out abuse with front/rear lockers and 10psi in the tires on rocks. No problems.

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Offline 72bluNblu

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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2012 - 01:09:20 PM »
the off set spacers and such that bolt to the drum and have their own studs --->well unless you live dangerousely or you dont like the body on your car use them .  they come loose /wheels fall off.

This is just flat out bad information. Aluminum rims need to be re-torqued too, aluminum spacers are no different.

Think about it from an engineering point of view. The spacer bolted to the hub is no different than a wheel bolted to the hub.. The wheel bolted to the spacer is only different from the wheel bolted to the hub because of the material of the spacer. As long as the spacer itself is made out of a quality aluminum and machined properly, its plenty strong enough to carry the loads.

I've seen the offset spacers used in everything from road racing and auto-x to offroading. And I've used them on a Dakota running 33" tires, and currently use them on my g/f's '55 Coronet. I have absolutely no worries about using them from a failure point of view. They do require a little upkeep though, just keep them torqued. No different than an alloy rim, they have to be re-torqued after the initial install after a few miles, and they should be checked periodically to make sure they're tight. No different than you already should do with your rims,  you just have to pull the wheel to do it. If you're using a good spacer, all it does is add another set of lug nuts to check.

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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2012 - 01:17:31 PM »
FWIW, I thought the OP was talking about the spacers without the lugs to extend it out. As in a plain machined disk that went in between the wheel and hub. That is why I thought the thickness would be crazy dangerous and stress the lugs. Apparently there are 2 different types of spacers. I always associated the ones with their own lugs as being used on duallys or something. If you have a spacer without built in lugs, I would still say 1/2" would be max? or am I full of it? I would seriously like to know. Thanks.
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2012 - 03:33:32 PM »
FWIW, I thought the OP was talking about the spacers without the lugs to extend it out.
Actually looking at 1" hub centric spacers with their own lugs, but interested on opinions on both types. It seems to me that if you install and maintain correctly, like blu'n'blu says and Goody reinforces , they will work they way they were intended and are safe. As for bearing wear, I still can't see any difference between a wheel with a 6" backspace and a 1" spacer and a wheel with a 5" backspace. Everyone seems to think ordering wheels with varying backspacing is ok, but adjust the wheel position with a spacer is crazy?!?  :dunno: 
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2012 - 04:17:25 PM »
http://www.performancewheel.com/Spacer_faq.cfm?catagory=6&gacid=#safe Question and answer. They say slip on (plain discs) are not safe over 1/4" but the other ones with studs are ok - as long as you don't buy cheap chinese/ebay junk. You can read the post for yourself, as I am doing now. Slip on ones cause a lot of lug stresses apparently. Hope this helps. I'm glad you brought this up, because I have a set of MOMOs that I want to use and will definately need spacers.
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2012 - 04:27:50 PM »
Well, I need a 1/2" spacer and apparently they only make 1", so on with my search! lol.
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2012 - 05:13:24 PM »
Well, I need a 1/2" spacer and apparently they only make 1", so on with my search! lol.


I used this 1/2" spacer.
http://www.allstarperformance.com/product.htm?prod=392&part=ALL44121&add=no
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2012 - 05:36:41 PM »
I used this 1/2" spacer.
http://www.allstarperformance.com/product.htm?prod=392&part=ALL44121&add=no
Thanks, Bud, but that's the type (slip on) the link I had said never over 1/4" as due to stress on the lugs and bearings? I'm gonna research some more. I wonder if it would be ok if you tack welded them to the wheel? I don't know. It's a ways off, so I have time to research it. Thanks! How's that valley plate? Looks fantastic! I seriously may want one!
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2012 - 05:55:25 PM »
Thanks, Bud, but that's the type (slip on) the link I had said never over 1/4" as due to stress on the lugs and bearings? I'm gonna research some more. I wonder if it would be ok if you tack welded them to the wheel? I don't know. It's a ways off, so I have time to research it. Thanks! How's that valley plate? Looks fantastic! I seriously may want one!
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I've run these spacers on mine with longer studs and no problems . What intake and head are you using? I'm using a raised port head on a 400 block and I had to clear a few things on the intake, so it for sure won't work on stock heads?
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2012 - 09:07:20 PM »
Why the same intake as you! Holley SD. But 440 source Stealth heads. I don't have them yet, or even am close to having the block machined at this point. But I know quality work when I see it! By the way, that BCR girdle I was telling you about? Best one out there? Invented and machined by a Canadian. Is it something they put in the water up there or what? lol. He out sources it to be built here in the US now, though. Your valley tray lloks TOUGH!.
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2012 - 09:10:12 AM »
im useing a 1/4 spacer on the drivers sideof my cuda with out a problem. . the spacers that bolt to the drum or rotor loosen up they have to be maintained ( do as you plz i wouldnt use them ). why not use the rim with the correct off set  so the bolt on spacers don t have to be used .
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2012 - 09:34:49 AM »
im useing a 1/4 spacer on the drivers sideof my cuda with out a problem. . the spacers that bolt to the drum or rotor loosen up they have to be maintained ( do as you plz i wouldnt use them ). why not use the rim with the correct off set  so the bolt on spacers don t have to be used .

..because the rim he wants doesn't exist in that backspacing. The bolt-on spacers do not back off on my Jeep with 100# tires and 40,000 street miles, but what do I know from experience? I do not regularly check them, nor use loctite. I step torque them, step torque the wheels and never have a problem.

I'd say I've been anything but easy on them
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Re: For those who have used wheel spacers
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2012 - 11:47:10 AM »
you are more man than i . like i said to each his own
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