New Vs Old

[Chryco Psycho]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvnRmtsQJM8

[bad440]

That video has been around for quite awhile now, when I first saw it, found comparing an old modified Challenger to a new stock one is very unfair. My new R/T turns 13.5's bone stock so do not understand an SRT going that slow. Road tests for the early six pak showed times in the low 14`s! Nuff said!

[GranCuda1970]

Sweet video 

[Cooter]

Road tests for the early six pak showed times in the low 14`s! Nuff said!

Obviously, you are not aware that things like Traction Control, and the like weren't around back in 1970.
A 440 C.I. BB Six Pack, with a 4-gear means one thing when turning a timeslip. Wheel spin. Besides, this thing is a small block.

Again, about the only comparison between the two is the fact that the new Challenger is an updated version of the original. I just prefer to actually drive an original where there is feedback instead of some computer taking my throttle from me. Maybe I WANT to have the rear tires in a skid @90MPH?

The guy even said "Can't help but giggle" when driving the older car...There's a reason the older cars will always be a little cooler than the newer ones. Although the new challenger is a step in the right direction away from jellybean cars.

[Gumby]

COOL video! Old school rules the day! lol. New ones are very cool also. This video was very nice. Thanks CP!

[MizzouRT]

That video has been around for quite awhile now, when I first saw it, found comparing an old modified Challenger to a new stock one is very unfair. My new R/T turns 13.5's bone stock so do not understand an SRT going that slow. Road tests for the early six pak showed times in the low 14`s! Nuff said!

Edmunds (who made the video) was routinely posting the slowest times with manual transmissions across all brands when that video was made.  Listening to them shift, they are not being aggressive and there is still more left in both cars.  As for the 340+6, you could see headers in the engine compartment and the exhaust sounded like a mild street cam had been added.  That, plus bigger and stickier tires than the originals explains how the 340 is getting high 13's without even trying hard...

[MizzouRT]

...A 440 C.I. BB Six Pack, with a 4-gear means one thing when turning a timeslip. Wheel spin...

I agree you see a lot of misleadingly slow time slips from old magazine runs with 426 and 440+6 in low 14's.  However, you also see mid 13 second passes despite the lack of traction, giving an indication of what the cars were capable of.  Best time for Hemi Cuda was 13.1 while an A12 RR actually broke into high 12s at 12.91 with 4 speed & 4.10s.  That is impressive driving and excellent track prep to hit that time with the stock tires.

[Super Blue 72]

Nice video to watch but difficult to compare.  There's one out with like a '68 Camaro all done up vs a newer Camaro.  With enough $$$ and time you can make a Yugo be faster than a newer stock car.

Now, if they did the same mods across the board.... 

[Gumby]

I don't put any stock in magazine engine shoot out build ups or "head to head" things like this. They are strictly fantasy. It was just fun to watch and sounded GREAT on a 7.1 700 watt surround hooked up to my computer! Felt like you were in the car! (creative labs sound system) People need to realize these things are just fluff to sell magazines and enjoy them for what they are. Lighten up a little. Enjoy life. He already said the original was heavily modified - so it wasn't a stock comparo.

[Super Blue 72]

I don't put any stock in magazine engine shoot out build ups or "head to head" things like this. They are strictly fantasy. It was just fun to watch

  Well said, Gumby. 

[hpe600rt]

 

[bad440]

For the record my 2010 Challenger has it's best times with traction control off, and I am an original owner of my 1974 Rallye 360(currently with 440) so I have a pretty good idea of what the old cars can do vs these new ones.

[Super Blue 72]

For the record my 2010 Challenger has it's best times with traction control off, and I am an original owner of my 1974 Rallye 360(currently with 440) so I have a pretty good idea of what the old cars can do vs these new ones.

Would love to hear your input about the new vs the old... 

[GranCuda1970]

Informative, but I just like Videos that have clear sound and you can hear the engines bark. This video has a lot of engine performance that you can hear clearly. Many vids don,t.

[highberg]

Was there in the day. At that time, with street buildup, good runs were in the 14s. Those quicker times done by guys like Ronnie Sox were done with clutchless shifting and slicks and he only broke into the high 12s and low 13s. Street tires just never got out of the 14s. Taking current times, we can get better from older cars since tire technology alone has improved. Most new performance tires have better traction than the slicks in the 70s. I have both cars, new is better behaved and I have done enough work on my old cuda to get it comparable but it is harder to drive to achieve. I also have a stock 440+6 4 speed roadrunner and that thing is like a lump compared to the other 2 cars.

I agree you see a lot of misleadingly slow time slips from old magazine runs with 426 and 440+6 in low 14's.  However, you also see mid 13 second passes despite the lack of traction, giving an indication of what the cars were capable of.  Best time for Hemi Cuda was 13.1 while an A12 RR actually broke into high 12s at 12.91 with 4 speed & 4.10s.  That is impressive driving and excellent track prep to hit that time with the stock tires.