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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #45 on: February 29, 2012 - 09:32:11 AM »
I'll just give you the same advice I gave my kids.  Almost anyone can do physical labor, and while there's nothing wrong with that, the way you make yourself valuable enough to hire and retain is by having a skill that not just anybody would be good at.  My kids are both bright and my hope is that they'll use their intelligence and strong work ethic to be successful.  So figure out what your unique strengths are and pick a profession that puts them to best use.  Good luck.

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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #46 on: February 29, 2012 - 09:55:05 AM »
Advice for the kids!! Join the military and get some combat skills and when your done bend over and kiss yer ___ !! Things are pretty screwd beyond royalty get based for a travel and retail society we are not producing anything anymore. The politicians made sure to raise regulations on businesses to the point of making China's cheap manufacturing labor attractive to business owners. Placed no tarrifs on the cheap goods coming in shutting down our manufacturing. The days of trusting working and retireing for an american business owner that produces an american product are over. The good news is when the dust settles after the financial collapse we again will have the cheapest labor and business will return.

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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #47 on: February 29, 2012 - 10:20:41 AM »
A degree doesn't mean you learned anything.  It's just a piece of paper that proves you can finish something.  That's it.  That's what an employer might be looking for.  He can only decide with the information given, hire a 22 year old with no paper/no way to prove what he's done.  Or a 22 year old with a paper that says he struggled through 4 years of something.

Same with the military.  An employer sees a 22 year old with 4 years of military experiences, that means something significant.

If you're young, try a few different things.  What you like now, might be very different from what you love tomorrow.

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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #48 on: February 29, 2012 - 10:32:06 AM »
Gonna be a bumpy ride no matter what you do.

Debt bubble
  Housing bubble
   State pension bubble
     Massive trade deficit       
       Unfunded liabilities bubble
         Gold and silver bubbles
          Europe currency crisis affecting the market
            Middle east wars

No magic pixie dust is gonna fix this.         

  I mean maybe the feds won't raid your IRA,s and 401k's.  ::)
 I'm praying for the new generation they will have the bumpiest ride of us all.
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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #49 on: February 29, 2012 - 10:48:33 AM »
I have seen that happen.


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« Reply #50 on: February 29, 2012 - 10:52:08 AM »
To make it even better you got rising cost of products due to rising energy costs, A heathcare law that could go into affect that will raise everyones medical costs. Are you gonna be able to pay the 14,000 dollars a year your employer is currently fronting for you, I doubt it!! but it will be the law of the land. If Iranian mullahs gets any nuttier you could see 10 dollar a gallon gas on top of all that.

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« Reply #51 on: February 29, 2012 - 03:23:29 PM »
Can somebody go dig Reagan up and revive him somehow? We need him!  :bricks1:
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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #52 on: February 29, 2012 - 03:30:15 PM »
Well you have 40-50 years of work ahead of you.  Things change. The current events are a blip on the radar in the long run. Things will be completely different in 5-10 years.  Here in So Cal there is success and money everywhere you look so it is all within reach. Sure things are bad but they are good too.  Make the most of it. 

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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #53 on: February 29, 2012 - 03:37:03 PM »
  Things change. The current events are a blip on the radar in the long run. Things will be completely different in 5-10 years.

Just like if you installed TV antennas on roofs back in the day. Yes, you can become a dinosaur in a decade.

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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #54 on: February 29, 2012 - 03:42:42 PM »
Just like if you installed TV antennas on roofs back in the day. Yes, you can become a dinosaur in a decade.

I worked as a carpenter for a while. 1990-2000.  I had the idea of starting a business removing those things from peoples roofs. Now you dont see them anymore so that career would not have lasted too long lol!

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« Reply #55 on: February 29, 2012 - 07:46:30 PM »
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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #56 on: February 29, 2012 - 08:03:09 PM »
Dont do my trade, Im wounded now  lol.   I like my craft, but it's dasngerous, and not many will/can do it.  Glad im retiring soon, if I dont get killed in the next couple of months

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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2012 - 11:40:29 AM »
I mean ideally I would like to stay in the same area I am now, but you have to go where the jobs are and do what ya gotta do. I'm not necessarily looking to relocate, and if I had to move I would have some preferences, but like I say a lot of that isn't up to me, but up to where the jobs are I guess. Very good point as mentioned before

If this is a primary factor, then you will need to adjust to those career fields that can be supported locally or regionally. It is not always easy, but it is certainly possible. I've done that in my home town while I've watched countless people come and go chasing jobs. To do this you need to look at a bigger picture than simply what fields interest you. You also need to look at local industries, regional employers, age demographics, and everything else around you while trying to see what fields may create sustainable employment.

To be honest, I've heard two schools of thought here, find something you love and are passionate about and make it your vocation. Doing so means you may always be the best in your field, but you risk burn out and disatisfaction with your passion. Flip side is do whatever pays the most, even if you hate it, for the least amount of time to set you up, then take the money and run. THen you have the funds to be choosy about how you use your time thereafter.  Myself, I shot for something in the middle doing something I don't mind that pays decent but I neither love nor loathe it. I've also been very, very lucky in picking y employers because my work in manufacturing is certainly not the easiest way to make a living in the modern USA.

Secondly, be aware you are entering a radically different workplace than did your parents.

This is the god honest truth of the matter. You are likely to endure 4-6 different career changes in your lifetime. Not just job changes, but outright alterations in fundamental work. Knowing your range of skills and being flexible can go a long way towards preparing you for this.

A degree doesn't mean you learned anything.  It's just a piece of paper that proves you can finish something.  That's it.

In a big sense, it does and in your example is a good reason of what it candemonstrate. However, while college should give you the fundamentals of any particular career field, it also should be teaching the the critical analysis skills to look beyond the obvious and find trends and identify the  frameworks and contexts that drive decision making. If it was simply to teach specific skills they would all be trade schools.

Can somebody go dig Reagan up and revive him somehow? We need him! 

In general those weren't bad times, but they also set the foundation for a bunch of the troubles we have now. The deregulation of the financial industries that took place in the 80s created the mess that lead to the savings and loan collapses. Since we weren't smart enough to tighten things back up, Clinton took the game to the next level and allowed the "too large to fail" situation to morph in to exisitance in the financial industries. After that it was only a matter of time before derivitives would evolve and further deregulation would lead to a near total melt down. Just IMO, but I guess what I'm saying is don't put too much faith in politicians and be wary of everything they do because they don't really work as representatives of the people but rather promote the interests of those that assist them to gain power and seek to retain it. Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, they all serve the interests of PACs first while pandering to the rest of us.

Well you have 40-50 years of work ahead of you.  Things change. The current events are a blip on the radar in the long run. Things will be completely different in 5-10 years.  Here in So Cal there is success and money everywhere you look so it is all within reach. Sure things are bad but they are good too.  Make the most of it. 

Very true. This is the balancing act you have to achieve in that you need to learn the skills to survive now yet still be adaptable enough to change as things evolve in the coming decades. As I pointed out at the top of the post, research, analysis, trending, to steal the phrase: "thinking globally while acting locally" can put you in a position to be successful. There is no one simply answer to it at all, much like what you've read in here. opinions diverge and results change. Either you will need to be so indispensable that your field never changes, or you need to be flexibile to adapt to it as it changes.
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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2012 - 01:45:14 PM »
 Didn't read all of the posts, but it sounds like you've gotten a decent start as a political analyst. Have you reached out to any of the analysts that you enjoy?  Rush and Colbert might be a little hard to get in touch with, but there are others and they were all where you are at some point.
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Re: Career Options...Worried about this economy
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2012 - 05:11:42 PM »
Didn't read all of the posts, but it sounds like you've gotten a decent start as a political analyst. Have you reached out to any of the analysts that you enjoy?  Rush and Colbert might be a little hard to get in touch with, but there are others and they were all where you are at some point.

Well like I saw I was given media blogger credentials to cover the largest gathering of conservatives in the nation, CPAC, in early February and went to D.C. to cover it for my show and site. So I guess that is something to put me apart from the rest...as far as reaching out, I have went to local radio stations and pitched my show to get in on traditional airwaves, and no one was looking for any new programming.  Also sent it to numerous stations in NC, TN, and VA to no avail, as far as traditional airwaves go. I am the Watauga County Chairman for a GOP Lt. Governor candidate in NC...I am probably the youngest county chairman on the campaign at 19.  And while I did get the position because my talents and work got noticed, it is an unpaid volunteer position I had to accept.  It would be awesome if I could translate those aforementioned abilities God has blessed me with and that others have took notice of, into some money.  Like I said in my first post, I sell t shirts on my site...but it isn't raking in much.  If I could take the same stuff that has gotten me appointed volunteer positions, and speaking gigs into money, that would be the ticket  :) Btw, I just the other day was blessed with another speaking opportunity to speak to the Wilkes County Tea Party  :bananasmi  :wavingflag: Like I put in one of my earlier posts, Rush said "he would find something he was good at it and find a way to make money doing it."  Well, I have found something I am naturally good at and excel at, its just the translating it into money part that is the hard part...and I guess thats what separates the mega millionaires in the political analyst industry from the regular joes.  While guys like Mark Levin had experience in the political realm guys like Limbaugh and Hannity, who had no political experience, didn't have a great college career, and didn't start until they were older, just got on the air and started giving the views and found a way to make money doing it.  That is what I'm trying to do, thinking outside the box, while also going to college and getting the conventional education to hopefully set me up for some work after its over. Kind of a two pronged approach.  I've made business cards, met a lot of connects in D.C. and abroad, and am definitely setting my name up locally and now statewide....but man if I could translate it into just a little money, I'd be real pleased
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