How many E-bodies are left?

[TinCuda]

I was just wondering if anyone has an idea of how many E-bodies still remain from the original production runs that are still around?

I am thinking restored, restorable, and survivors.   Not parts cars or salvage yard heaps.

Any idea?


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[ChallengerHK]

I've asked this question a few times. The only answer I ever got was something on the order of 2% of original production, but the poster didn't justify that number and it seems low to me. Very low.

[TinCuda]

2% would be what?  3000 give or take?   Total Cudas and Challengers.


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[ChallengerHK]

I'm not up on Barracuda production numbers, but about 3000 or so Challengers alone, if my math is right.

[JH27N0B]

I'd guesstimate 20-25% overall, though it varies by the desirability of the car.  On the rarest E bodies, like hemi convertibles, the survival rate approaches 100%.  Hemi hardtops are probably in the 75% surviving ballpark.  V codes might be more than 50%.  T/As and AARs are likely in the 30-40% range or even higher.  Last I heard Barry has documented around half of the T/A production.  Granted some of these documented cars are just broadcast sheets or engine blocks with the fate of the car they came from unknown.  But probably over 800 are actual surviving cars and there has to be more cars out there that haven't been registered yet.
But the /6s and 318s I'd be surprised if more than 10 or 15% survive.  Many that didn't get wrecked or worn out back in the '70s were stripped of parts to restore more desirable E bodies in more recent years.  And with the rare cars, even a very poor condition example would justify the restoration costs to save whereas a base model would usually not be saved unless it was really nice to begin with.

[ChallengerHK]

I agree with that reasoning, and as I've said before, I think the rarest e-bodies will shortly be original 6 cylinder cars, if they're not the rarest already. I do think your estimates are high, though. Purely a guess on my part, but I'd say something like 5% of original production.

[TinCuda]

Ok,  I went and redid my math.   At 2% we are looking at around 5500 left.

At 5%, that looks like about 14,000 remaining.

At 20%, that takes us to around 55,000 left.

Of course I am rounding numbers like crazy.


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[JH27N0B]

I agree with that reasoning, and as I've said before, I think the rarest e-bodies will shortly be original 6 cylinder cars, if they're not the rarest already. I do think your estimates are high, though. Purely a guess on my part, but I'd say something like 5% of original production.

Actually, to clarify my estimate, I was thinking of '70-'71 ebodies with my numbers.  I think the survival rate of them is higher than the '72-'74's.  The later ones just never got the "loving" that the first couple years did, also the later year ones had a reputation of being more susceptible to rust, you hear about some getting rusty within months of driving off the dealers lots! So overall for all '70-'74s the survival rate is probably less than 10% but for '70-'71s I still think more than 20% might still exist.
One of my dreams is to restore a /6 E body convertible back to day one condition!  I'd love to take one of the all too common high impact hemi clone convertibles and restore it back to the way it was born, even repainting it to its original metallic green or gold paint! 
   

[AARuFAST]

   < dunno % but I'm confused on why CC.com members have not entered the Barra-Cuda vs Challenger Poll.
only 240 entries since inception last July.  There's got to be over 600 members.
 

All we want is to get a total of  1970 thru 1974 Barra-Cuda's vs Challenger's of members e-body's.

The poll will break down the Years.
As for the model's it is not important since many have been cloned.
WE WANT A COUNT.
 Maybe the poll should have been just for the year, 1970 thru 1974
not concerned wether a HT or Convertible or Model or engine.
Alaska has his website The 1970 Hamtramck Registry.
There is a AAR and T/A  and a Plymouth AAR info and Resources website
There is a Plymouth Barracuda and Cuda registry,
 But there is no 1970 thru 1974 Barracuda--Challenger e-body Registry.
God forbid we combine both models on one website.
If I was savy on buildin a website I would do one.
So why not enter your ride in the Poll.  At least we can get a % from it.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=78670.0
 Jeff
AARuFAST

[ChallengerHK]

In any group like this, a small percentage is involved in operation, a slightly larger percentage actively participates, and...then there are the bulk of members. I'm a little surprised that you got as many votes as you did.

[TinCuda]

I voted months ago.


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[spamtank]

In any group like this, a small percentage is involved in operation, a slightly larger percentage actively participates, and...then there are the bulk of members. I'm a little surprised that you got as many votes as you did.

Plus, I have to believe that there are a large number of members who love these cars, but don't own one today.

[AARuFAST]

yea thunk!  I figured since I joined there at least 230 newbies.

Dave i guess it's like the Calender and T-shirts few have responded.  I notice members pop in and out since I registered.
I'm sure many of the members being married with kids, jobs, kids sports, family first, keeps many from CC.com.
This club must be the largest e-body website. 
It would just be kool to get a count of 70 thru 74 e-body's.

There are a lot of topics to read and keep up on the CC website.  I don't read them all.
I'm retired so I kill my evenings on here.

About gettin with Purple 1 and MEK and other local members I can only recommend meeting at a Saturday Cruise like Marley Station Mall or any near u.

[1970 RT Challenger 1970]

Read the last paragraph. For May 1, 1982 it talks "Generally"  about the 85,000 1969 Dodge Chargers and the attrition rate.

I've heard 5% Survival for E-Bodies from a Car Appraisor about 9 years ago.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~cap/lee/hazard.html

[TinCuda]

Actually, to clarify my estimate, I was thinking of '70-'71 ebodies with my numbers.  I think the survival rate of them is higher than the '72-'74's.  The later ones just never got the "loving" that the first couple years did, also the later year ones had a reputation of being more susceptible to rust, you hear about some getting rusty within months of driving off the dealers lots! So overall for all '70-'74s the survival rate is probably less than 10% but for '70-'71s I still think more than 20% might still exist.
One of my dreams is to restore a /6 E body convertible back to day one condition!  I'd love to take one of the all too common high impact hemi clone convertibles and restore it back to the way it was born, even repainting it to its original metallic green or gold paint! 
 

If I am doing my math correctly,   20% of 1970-71 Cudas and Challengers would be something like 31,000 left.


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