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    Offline 72Chall77Doba

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    Manual to electric window conversion
    « on: February 12, 2005 - 10:44:53 PM »
    I am thinking about converting my manual crank windows to power.
    I've seen the electric life kit on the net and it got a good review in mopar muscle mag.

    Any of you guys tried em?
    And they have lotsa different switches to choose from, so which one would you reccomend.

    Thanks, and here is a link to the site showing the kit and links to various switches.

    http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AEOS&Product_Code=CR48-K

    and here is the link to the switch I like best-

    http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SK3-OEGM&Category_Code=
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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005 - 01:30:25 AM »
    I believe they are just the door windows not the 1/4 windows , if they are the same supplier John in NY had them installed , 73 cuda 383 , haven`t seen him around in a long time 
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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2005 - 08:56:44 AM »
    I bought the same Electric-Life kit and haven't installed them yet. EL recommends their universal kit for quarter windows.

    I wanted to keep the all-mopar look and got a full set of original mopar power window switches. The problem is that the orginal motors were dual-coil units and the EL units are 2-wire reversing motors. To use the mopar switches I am going to have to wire in a reversing relay for each door. Because of costs, I am now considering going with the EL switches

    Ck out 74360Cuda's thread on this, he bought the set and had them professionally installed. He did note that they use A LOT of juice. Ck it out here:
    http://www.cuda-challenger.com/smf/index.php?topic=4763.0
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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #3 on: February 13, 2005 - 09:40:46 PM »
    Quote from: miketyler on February 13, 2005 - 08:56:44 AM
    The problem is that the orginal motors were dual-coil units and the EL units are 2-wire reversing motors. To use the mopar switches I am going to have to wire in a reversing relay for each door. Because of costs, I am now considering going with the EL switches



    Um, the factory window motors are two wire and are a polarity reversing system. So the factory switches should work fine.
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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #4 on: February 14, 2005 - 10:36:45 AM »
    My buddy has them on his viper powered cuda. We put them in in about an hour. They go down real quick but are very slow going up. i think the motors are CRAP.  Optima yellow top battery and a factory alt . from a viper...
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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #5 on: February 14, 2005 - 02:27:19 PM »
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    Um, the factory window motors are two wire and are a polarity reversing system. So the factory switches should work fine.


    Not according to EL. I dont have OEM motors to confirm but EL said they were "dual coil" units. I do have the OEM mopar switches and they are a simple non-reversing, three pole design.  If you can tell me how the OEM switches wire up to the two-wire EL motors, that would be great. I was not crazy about having to purchase relays and then engineering mounts for them.

    http://www.electric-life.com/preview/faqs.html

    Taken from the EL site:

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    Q: I have an early model vehicle with the original wiring can I use it with your system?

    A: Chances are that your vehicle came equipped with the old 3 wire motor system. In that case, you would have to add relays to make it work. We can supply the relays and a wiring diagram, but this type of conversion should be left up to professional installers.



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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #6 on: February 15, 2005 - 10:40:34 PM »
    I have a 70 cuda factory power windows. All of the motor on my car have 2 wires. Factory switches should work.

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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005 - 06:31:46 AM »
    hmmm...this is a bit of a quandry; I was told the OEM switches I purchased were from an E-body. They are rocker style switches but have three poles on the back of each. Will post up some pics of these and maybe someone can set me straight here

    thanks for confirming that  :thumbs:   
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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #8 on: February 19, 2005 - 09:40:50 AM »
    ok, maybe this explains it. The OEM motors may have been two wire but they used relays with the multi-lead factory switches. Part number is 2932834.  I just saw one here:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4529349787





     
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    Re: Manual to electric window conversion
    « Reply #9 on: February 26, 2005 - 11:41:55 AM »
    The factory switches are for non internall grounded motors. If all you have to do is reverse the polarity of the wires to make the motor go up, or down, this is the way the factory window motors work. The switch merely changed the polarity of the circuit depending upon which way it is pressed.
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