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Led Headlights for an e body
« on: July 27, 2012 - 04:03:25 AM »
Guys any idea where these cam from? I asked the guy who the vid belongs too but didnt get an answer Thanks guy I appreciate it, the vis is below

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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012 - 04:19:28 AM »
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012 - 04:25:29 AM »
Those aren't LED.  Probably CFC.

You can get those on e-bay all day long:

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=7+round+halo&_sacat=&_sop=10&_dmd=1&_odkw=cuda&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313



I looked at it what ones do I need, the 7 inch? What all do I need to run these?
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012 - 05:52:31 AM »
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Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012 - 07:08:39 AM »
They are the 7" sealed beam to composite conversion and use the H4 bulb. All you need are the headlight housings and bulbs, then replace the factory bulb with the new assembly. Most places sell them with the bulbs as a kit for $25-$300 depending on what quality you want. Some have glass lenses, some plastic, some have aluminum housings, some composite, some plastic.

I purchased glass lens/ Composite housing from summit, for about $60 for the whole shebang. Just be careful when you order to look at the mounting depth as some require drilling a hole behind the headlight bucket due to the new housing.

Here is a side by side comparison. The new composite looks bigger but it's just because the retaining ring is installed


Here you can see the differences at the back of the bulb or housing in the case of the new piece. Note the rubber grommet on the back of the new setup. sometimes this creates clearanceissues, sometimes it doesn't.


Depending on the headlight bucket, the area behind the bucket may not be large enough for the new housing. In that case you will have to space the bucket or use a 2" hole saw to clearance the area behind the bucket


Here you can see the two actual bulbs and the have the same 3 prong terminal, meaning no wiring modifications are needed


There are tons of different versions of these kits, some black lens, some with halos, some with turn signals internally, some with projector inserts and so on
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012 - 07:12:48 AM by YellowFin »
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2012 - 09:20:18 AM »
I have a set of halo h4 lamps/bulbs etc..  for a 4 lamp system for my Challengerbut I didn't install them because I wasen't willing to cut my fenders for clearance at the back of  the bulb.
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2012 - 12:06:29 PM »
I have a set of halo h4 lamps/bulbs etc..  for a 4 lamp system for my Challengerbut I didn't install them because I wasen't willing to cut my fenders for clearance at the back of  the bulb.


So you have to do cutting around the fender to get this to work? Thats not good,Damn.
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2012 - 12:07:39 PM »
They are the 7" sealed beam to composite conversion and use the H4 bulb. All you need are the headlight housings and bulbs, then replace the factory bulb with the new assembly. Most places sell them with the bulbs as a kit for $25-$300 depending on what quality you want. Some have glass lenses, some plastic, some have aluminum housings, some composite, some plastic.

I purchased glass lens/ Composite housing from summit, for about $60 for the whole shebang. Just be careful when you order to look at the mounting depth as some require drilling a hole behind the headlight bucket due to the new housing.

Here is a side by side comparison. The new composite looks bigger but it's just because the retaining ring is installed


Here you can see the differences at the back of the bulb or housing in the case of the new piece. Note the rubber grommet on the back of the new setup. sometimes this creates clearanceissues, sometimes it doesn't.


Depending on the headlight bucket, the area behind the bucket may not be large enough for the new housing. In that case you will have to space the bucket or use a 2" hole saw to clearance the area behind the bucket


Here you can see the two actual bulbs and the have the same 3 prong terminal, meaning no wiring modifications are needed


There are tons of different versions of these kits, some black lens, some with halos, some with turn signals internally, some with projector inserts and so on






Do you have  the summit part number so I can take a look at them?
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2012 - 12:11:01 PM »

So you have to do cutting around the fender to get this to work? Thats not good,Damn.

Yes, you need to drill out behind the headlamp for extra clearance for the bulb/socket.  :eek4:
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2012 - 12:43:56 PM »
you do know that is members car right.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=28388.0

not a lot of pics left, but soem are still there.

wicked car!!!

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Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2012 - 01:10:29 PM »
you do know that is members car right.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=28388.0

not a lot of pics left, but soem are still there.

wicked car!!!

Jason


I love that car, it is the reason I want to do a front bumper delete!

And yes it sucks that you need to drill a hole in the inner fender, but worth it in my opinion. Save the coupon and weld it back in later if you are really worried about it. Personally, I'm not concerned as my car is a driver and will have as many modern upgrades as possible. She will be driven often and no where near a collector or trailer queen.

Would I do it to an original v or u code car? Nope.

But my 73 turned 70 AAR clone.. Heck yeah!
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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2012 - 01:58:21 PM »
I love that car, it is the reason I want to do a front bumper delete!

And yes it sucks that you need to drill a hole in the inner fender, but worth it in my opinion. Save the coupon and weld it back in later if you are really worried about it. Personally, I'm not concerned as my car is a driver and will have as many modern upgrades as possible. She will be driven often and no where near a collector or trailer queen.

Would I do it to an original v or u code car? Nope.

But my 73 turned 70 AAR clone.. Heck yeah!

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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2012 - 05:00:24 PM »
I agree, I love Bob's car too, major inspiration. I have not seen him on here for a while but he is on his facebook page some still. I ordered all my headlight conversion parts from amazon.
New sockets - 2 of 3A Racing 46-9993 Heavy Duty Headlight Socket 9003/H4
Relays -  3 of Absolute RLS125 12-VCD Automotive Relay SPDT 30/40A, got a 3rd one for an air horn  :bigsmile:
glass headlights with bulbs -  HELLA 002395801 Vision Plus 165mm 12V High/Low Beam Halogen Conversion Headlamp Kit (H4 ECE), beware technically the H4 bulbs are not legal in the states on cars, only motorcycles.
fuse holders -  3 of In-line ACT Water-resistant Fuse Holder - 10 AWG
relay sockets -  3 of 12 VDC 5-PIN RELAY SOCKET
even ordered an amp install kit with 8 ga wire and fuse holder to do the alternator to starter relay bypass -  Kicker 09DPK8 D-Series 8AWG ROHS Compliant Amplifier Power Kit

I had plenty of clearance without cutting the inner fender. Now I just need to get some whiter bulbs to match the LED turn signals.

David - In Georgia

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Re: Led Headlights for an e body
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2012 - 06:58:58 PM »
to the OP...are you looking for headlights with the turn signals (or halos) in them????

Jason
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