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    Offline pywell

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    The 6.1 is here
    « on: August 07, 2012 - 02:27:54 AM »
    Ok the hemi is here and I have a few questions for you guys right  out the box.

    1. The oil pan/dipstick/sump location etc... Do we need a new oil pan? Looks like it may have clearance issues with the k-member.
    2. Dash guages, what did you guys do?
    3. Power steering pump ok for original steering box?
    4. which engine mount bushings did you use?
    5. Any issues arise that maybe noteworthy?
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012 - 07:22:27 AM »
     :rebel: enjoy your install

    Yes you need a new oil pan Charlie's has a nice one and so does mildon.

    Dip stick lokar

    Motor mounts TTI

    Dash gauges will all work with old style sending units installed into the 6.1 except the alternator gauge should be bypassed and changed to an amp gauge

    Lots of other install stuff needed if going Efi....

     :bigsmile:

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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012 - 02:51:24 PM »
    Which radiator do you have? I already have the tti mounts, im looking for the rubber bushings (stock 6.1??). Going to check out the oil pans now.
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #3 on: August 08, 2012 - 03:18:28 PM »
    Eh, why not....


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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #4 on: August 08, 2012 - 04:36:49 PM »
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #5 on: August 08, 2012 - 11:45:27 PM »
    Quote from: pywell on August 08, 2012 - 02:51:24 PM
    Which radiator do you have? I already have the tti mounts, im looking for the rubber bushings (stock 6.1??). Going to check out the oil pans now.

    I hade a custome one made for my car  but a buddy of mine used a be cool with no issues.

    What ECM are you going to use?
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012 - 10:42:21 AM »
    We are getting the hilborn injection kit with the fast xfi 2.0. Speaking of which do you know the clearance from the top of the engine block to the hood? Id like to know how tall of stacks we can use without modifying the hood.
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #7 on: August 10, 2012 - 12:51:52 AM »
    It probably depends on the hood and the bracing, but it's not a lot.  On my Cuda with the twin scoop hood, I had to bend the tube coming off the top of the throttle body down because it was rubbing on the hood (it's the tube with the green tape on it in this picture).  So that might give you an idea.



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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012 - 01:58:01 PM »
    Yes thanks, all I needed to know, that completely kills that system, we have the rallye hood.

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    « Last Edit: August 10, 2012 - 07:50:11 PM by pywell »
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #9 on: August 11, 2012 - 07:31:57 AM »
    Yeah ,  .Its true if you are going with a Alterkation that a Charleys oil pan will work, but you are better off with a Bouchillion finned cast Aluminum oil pan part # 61RA860  ,  There is lots of options on the controller too ,Fast XFI, Mopar AEM ,Megasquirt, but be careful what you read on the internet,and magazines ,I found alot misinformation and opinions (especially about the ECM). I feel lucky in a way that Bouchillion Performance is down the street to ask them any questions in detail. They sell alot gen 3 hemi engine kits . I would call them or Arrington and ask because they would know, they do alot of custom ECM tuning ect. ect.    Save your self the headache . Good luck with your project http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=75207.0
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #10 on: August 11, 2012 - 01:34:46 PM »
    Wow a lot of your work is really well thought out. Its great to see you are a little ahead of me (cheat sheet ;-) ). The suspension upgrades you did are awesome, we won't be going that way, it will remain pretty much stock. I will be calling your recommendations, I need all the engine accessories etc.

    I will talk with them about the ecu etc... Right now I'm leaning toward fast xfi 2.

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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #11 on: August 23, 2012 - 06:49:58 PM »
    Steering, I never gave it much thought until today really. Can the stock steering linkage, box etc... Be used?

    Im putting the final coat of paint on the suspension tomorrow so we are going to start putting things together here soon.

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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #12 on: August 23, 2012 - 07:39:59 PM »
    Quote from: pywell on August 23, 2012 - 06:49:58 PM
    Steering, I never gave it much thought until today really. Can the stock steering linkage, box etc... Be used?

    Im putting the final coat of paint on the suspension tomorrow so we are going to start putting things together here soon.

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    yes if you notch the steering gear mount(if you are running the AC compressor) and use headers.
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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #13 on: August 23, 2012 - 08:57:21 PM »
    Ok, good to know

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    Re: The 6.1 is here
    « Reply #14 on: September 28, 2012 - 10:56:15 PM »
    Quote from: thedodgeboys on August 23, 2012 - 07:39:59 PM
    yes if you notch the steering gear mount(if you are running the AC compressor) and use headers.

    Which type of Master Cylinder did you go with? Looks like a hydraulic p/s??

    Im leaning between an electric Master Cylinder and the Hydraulic, any thoughts?
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