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    Offline 'cruddy mutt'

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    1970 aar cuda
    « on: September 26, 2012 - 06:17:00 PM »
    Have some questions about how to tell if a car has been restore? What kinnd of documents would be needed to prove that it has not been restored the guy is saying he is the second owner and this 1970 aar cuda has not been restored and has 42,000 Original miles on it i looked at the car and did not see the fender tag so i put a call into the owner to see what documents he has and if he has the fender tag any help on this car would be helpful thanks  :1zhelp:
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    Offline TorOrange

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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012 - 06:42:22 PM »
    Dull and faded paint would be a good sign, but then again a car can be restored and have the same effect later on.

    Got more details? Like colors, what is original, what needs replace and price?
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    Offline 'cruddy mutt'

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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012 - 09:32:49 PM »
    The car is green with a black hood the stripes on the side are black its a 340 automatic the car was repainted and thats all that has been done he is the second owner the ball is in my court on price the car is a ten out of a ten the motor is orange and the air filter is orange all numbers matching car with 42.000 original miles i will have pics this weekend of the car and fender tag so i will post them asap as i would like to know more about the car because we would like to buy it
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    Offline TorOrange

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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012 - 09:49:06 PM »
    Well if it has been repainted there is a chance it's been restored. But this wont affect the value, unless it has been repainted a different color other then it's original color. Also older restorations tend to be bad so you may have to restore the car.

    I would double check if the motor is matching, if you are going to purchase it. Looking forward to seeing some pics and helping you further   :thumbsup:
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    Offline 'cruddy mutt'

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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012 - 09:57:55 PM »
    The owner of the car is saying it has never been restored its all original it just has been repainted the same color it was so with this all being said how would he prove this oor is there no way to prove it is all 100 percent original for 1970
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    Offline TorOrange

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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012 - 10:06:16 PM »
    Because it has been repainted, I would say no. The body+interior+drive train can be all original, But I wouldn't call it 100%. It's still a AAR and they are damm cool  8)
    « Last Edit: September 26, 2012 - 10:09:01 PM by TorOrange »
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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012 - 11:26:59 PM »
    Did you get the vin number.
    That will tell you first and foremost that this car is an aar.

    Should read BS23JOB******

    If you got the last numbers you can go on barry's site and see if the number appears anywhere on his lists.
    You might get some more information on the car.

    the last six numbers in the vin should be stamped on the passengers side, just above where the oil pan meets the engine.  About half way back on the oil pan.
    I can't remember where the one is for the tranny, I do believe it is kind of the same as the engine, passengers side, middle, at pan mount.

    You can usually look underneath and see if there has been over spray on parts that were no over sprayed from factory.
    Another give away is when you open the doors, you can usually see a paint color difference there as most folks don't jamb out when the do a quick repaint.
    Make sure all numbers match, fender tag, vin tag, body number, radiator shroud number.  Hopefully Build sheet!

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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #7 on: September 27, 2012 - 09:13:58 AM »
    Repaint = partially restored.You just have to look the rest of it over carefully and it`s usually easy to tell what is original and what has been restored on a 40+ year old vehicle.
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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012 - 01:15:59 PM »
    « Last Edit: September 27, 2012 - 01:48:54 PM by cruddy mutt »
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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012 - 02:26:42 PM »
    This does looks restored to me. As It's was to perfect to be factory. And the rallye cluster is 72-74 version. With the seat belt light in the cluster, etc.
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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012 - 02:33:14 PM »
    What would be a good price point to start at with this car i know it is hard to say just from pictures
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    Offline TorOrange

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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012 - 02:55:28 PM »
    Well no Buldsheet bummer, The car should have  tags 1 with the codes the second will have Trans am on it.
    The engine compartment looks pretty correct, hope you can check if it is a T/A block and it is matching. Also T/A motors had T/A heads and the only way to check is to take the valve covers off. (At least that's the only way I think there is)

    If you can get some shots of the underside that would be great, the mufflers should be flat black. Along with a few other things that should be black. Also a side shot of the rear spoiler would be good, kinda looks original cant tell though.

    I'd say nice AARs right now are going from 40-55k, 55k being real nice with tags/bs, documents and rotisserie restored. As widing pointed out some things, the dealer may not be telling the truth about the car not being restored. So low ball him start at lets say 20k and up to 35k-40k could be worth more but not to many come up (so hard to determine that price) and you don't know if it is really a 42k mile car or it would be worth more. If you can find someone on here nearby that can look over the car before you purchase that would be a good idea.
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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012 - 03:05:25 PM »
    Also is it me or is that not the correct black?  :clueless:
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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012 - 03:18:34 PM »
    Why would someone put the wrong rally gauges in a car like that.Being an auto I would not pay more than 35k.The car does not have the original speedo.There is no way you will be able to verify the miles.
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    Re: 1970 aar cuda
    « Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012 - 03:26:41 PM »
    you will never be able to verify milage on these cars. A drill will give you any milage you want.  looking at the enginebay I`d say it has been restored somewhere down the road. Incorrect dash, A/T, not very popular color and a seller trying to sell a bs story....  :woo:
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