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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #90 on: January 23, 2013 - 02:24:48 PM »
I wonder if there is any way to have them widened?  I assume they are cast aluminum. I would rather run a wider rim/tire combo in the back of my challenger than what is offered.  I have a feeling though that can't be done. Thoughts?

I have seen it done before, thought I don't recommend it. They basically cut the wheel in half at the flattest part of the drop-center and weld a strip of aluminum between them...Doesn't exactly seem safe to me...
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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #91 on: January 23, 2013 - 03:13:11 PM »
I have seen it done before, thought I don't recommend it. They basically cut the wheel in half at the flattest part of the drop-center and weld a strip of aluminum between them...Doesn't exactly seem safe to me...

when i bought my charger it had a set of the stock hubcap wheels with the rears widened to 10 inches.  i eventually sold them, but i never had a problem with them...

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #92 on: January 23, 2013 - 05:00:28 PM »
when i bought my charger it had a set of the stock hubcap wheels with the rears widened to 10 inches.  i eventually sold them, but i never had a problem with them...

Different animal entirely. Stock hubcap wheels are steel, widening or narrowing a steel wheel is a piece of cake. Cast aluminum is a whole different deal, you can't actually weld cast aluminum and have it be of any strength, the casting process traps air and all kinds of contaminants in the metal, making it pretty tricky to weld at all. I know of a guy that had a set of FR500's narrowed to use on the front of his Dart, but I don't know enough about the construction of those vs the yearone wheels to say whether or not it can be done. If they were 2 or 3 piece rims it would work, but if they're just a 1 piece casting then I wouldn't recommend it.

A 9" wide rim is pretty much the largest you can run without a spring hanger offset anyway, you could run 275's with no issues on the rim. Backspace is about right to run 275/40's like I do on the back of my Challenger. Now if you've done the spring hanger offset or 3" relocation and a mini-tub you're out of luck with these...

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #93 on: January 23, 2013 - 06:15:44 PM »
Like this? I do

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #94 on: January 23, 2013 - 06:22:22 PM »
Are the trim rings included in the Year One package? I didn't see where that was stated. I assume they are brushed stainless?    :feedback:

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2013 - 06:27:18 PM »
Are the trim rings included in the Year One package? I didn't see where that was stated. I assume they are brushed stainless?    :feedback:

I think there is no trim ring, its all part of the rim, machined/polished .
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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2013 - 06:30:47 PM »
I think there is no trim ring, its all part of the rim, machined/polished .

Correct.  There are no trim rings for this wheel.  The area is brushed to give a trim ring appearance.

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #97 on: January 23, 2013 - 06:35:59 PM »
OK. That's cool with me.

  Thanks guys!    :2thumbs:

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #98 on: January 23, 2013 - 08:12:36 PM »
Man, these look awesome. The proportions and depth of the lip look incredible.

18x8 Fronts and 18x10 Rears would look amazing on my car. Slightly darker silver paint (could do on my own) with the dark center cap.

Hopefully they'll expand the range of sizes in the future. For the pro touring look, 17" is a bit anemic for filling out the rears in particular.

Very promising though!

 :iagree:  With low profile tires they look too small.  :dunno:
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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #99 on: January 23, 2013 - 09:00:45 PM »
Different animal entirely. Stock hubcap wheels are steel, widening or narrowing a steel wheel is a piece of cake. Cast aluminum is a whole different deal, you can't actually weld cast aluminum and have it be of any strength, the casting process traps air and all kinds of contaminants in the metal, making it pretty tricky to weld at all. I know of a guy that had a set of FR500's narrowed to use on the front of his Dart, but I don't know enough about the construction of those vs the yearone wheels to say whether or not it can be done. If they were 2 or 3 piece rims it would work, but if they're just a 1 piece casting then I wouldn't recommend it.

makes sense  :2thumbs:

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #100 on: January 24, 2013 - 02:05:23 PM »
Different animal entirely. Stock hubcap wheels are steel, widening or narrowing a steel wheel is a piece of cake. Cast aluminum is a whole different deal, you can't actually weld cast aluminum and have it be of any strength, the casting process traps air and all kinds of contaminants in the metal, making it pretty tricky to weld at all. I know of a guy that had a set of FR500's narrowed to use on the front of his Dart, but I don't know enough about the construction of those vs the yearone wheels to say whether or not it can be done. If they were 2 or 3 piece rims it would work, but if they're just a 1 piece casting then I wouldn't recommend it.

A 9" wide rim is pretty much the largest you can run without a spring hanger offset anyway, you could run 275's with no issues on the rim. Backspace is about right to run 275/40's like I do on the back of my Challenger. Now if you've done the spring hanger offset or 3" relocation and a mini-tub you're out of luck with these...

You can TIG (heliarc) weld cast aluminum.  Seen it done several times.  I've had cast rims repaired (backside) and they held up fine. 
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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #101 on: January 24, 2013 - 04:35:24 PM »
You can TIG (heliarc) weld cast aluminum.  Seen it done several times.  I've had cast rims repaired (backside) and they held up fine.

Maybe I overstepped a little with my last post. Yes, you CAN TIG weld cast aluminum. The frame on my Triumph Speed Triple is cast in a few different sections and welded together. But, unless you're talking about a machine weld on something that was intended to be welded, welding cast aluminum is NOT easy. Ive done it, and although my TIG machine isn't the latest and greatest out there, its not a piece of cake. The casting process entrains air and contaminants into the metal, which usually isn't the best alloy to begin with. Since aluminum welding is so sensitive to contaminants in the first place, it makes the weld harder to accomplish. The alloy itself makes a huge difference, the frame on my motorcycle is likely a MUCH different alloy than the Chinese cast YearOne wheels we're talking about. And the quality of the casting makes a big difference. Higher quality castings will be much easier to weld because they have less "junk" in them. But again, we're talking about cast alloy wheels that are likely made in China.

So yes, it can be done. I still wouldn't recommend it, and if you MUST have it done, make sure you find a shop with a welder that you really trust, because getting it wrong means a wheel failure down the road. With the amount of available wheels out there, I would just pick something that is made in the size you need, rather than messing with something that isn't.

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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #102 on: January 24, 2013 - 05:48:36 PM »
Maybe I overstepped a little with my last post. Yes, you CAN TIG weld cast aluminum. The frame on my Triumph Speed Triple is cast in a few different sections and welded together. But, unless you're talking about a machine weld on something that was intended to be welded, welding cast aluminum is NOT easy. Ive done it, and although my TIG machine isn't the latest and greatest out there, its not a piece of cake. The casting process entrains air and contaminants into the metal, which usually isn't the best alloy to begin with. Since aluminum welding is so sensitive to contaminants in the first place, it makes the weld harder to accomplish. The alloy itself makes a huge difference, the frame on my motorcycle is likely a MUCH different alloy than the Chinese cast YearOne wheels we're talking about. And the quality of the casting makes a big difference. Higher quality castings will be much easier to weld because they have less "junk" in them. But again, we're talking about cast alloy wheels that are likely made in China.

So yes, it can be done. I still wouldn't recommend it, and if you MUST have it done, make sure you find a shop with a welder that you really trust, because getting it wrong means a wheel failure down the road. With the amount of available wheels out there, I would just pick something that is made in the size you need, rather than messing with something that isn't.

 :iagree:  I'll also add in you would also need to preheat it which would screw up the finish and make it out of round requiring it to be compleatley machined again.
In a nut shell.... forget it, buy different rims!  :grinyes:
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Re: Yearone 17inch Rallye
« Reply #103 on: February 25, 2013 - 09:52:18 PM »
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