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    Offline TinCuda

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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #15 on: November 08, 2012 - 11:19:52 PM »
    That is why I continue to read these forums.

    I learn something new every day.


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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012 - 06:56:26 PM »
    here is a real pretty white one http://autocollections.com/index.cfm?key=3540&action=details&tab=inventory&cartable=

    for some reason Dodge didn't go any larger than a 383 for the Challenger verts   :screwy:   but the Cuda verts were offered with 440 and 426's
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #17 on: November 12, 2012 - 08:25:21 AM »
    Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 09, 2012 - 06:56:26 PM
    here is a real pretty white one http://autocollections.com/index.cfm?key=3540&action=details&tab=inventory&cartable=

    for some reason Dodge didn't go any larger than a 383 for the Challenger verts   :screwy:   but the Cuda verts were offered with 440 and 426's


    IIRC, the Challengers were considered a little more the "refined" and premium car, and the cuda more bare bones. Similar to Pontiacs vs Chevys.
    In all reality, the hemi beast was too much for the vert chassis. From what Ive heard, the weight, the torque, etc were enough to throw off your door alignments after a few good launches.
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #18 on: November 12, 2012 - 11:24:59 AM »
    Quote from: tommyg29 on November 12, 2012 - 08:25:21 AM
    IIRC, the Challengers were considered a little more the "refined" and premium car, and the cuda more bare bones. Similar to Pontiacs vs Chevys.

    I disagree.

    Barracuda base price vs. Challenger base price was $400.00 more.
    Hemi Cuda's came with Shaker as standard equipment. Challenger didn't.
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #19 on: November 12, 2012 - 08:44:42 PM »
    Wasn't there an issue in manufacturing shakers for challengers that caused the dispairity?
    It also never made sense to me that challenger R/T's have rallye gauges standard, but they were an option for the cuda. :dunno:
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #20 on: November 12, 2012 - 09:09:16 PM »
    Quote from: TinCuda on November 03, 2012 - 07:54:43 PM
    I was at local event today.   It was a auto shop open house.   Not really a car show but a few nice cars showed up.

    There was a 1971 convertible Challenger with a 426 Hemi emblem on the hood.

    I wasn't able to talk to the owner, so I didn't see under the hood.

    This was the first time that I have seen the car.   It doesn't come to local car shows.

    The condition of the car was good.  It struck me like a 10-15 year old daily driver that was taken care of.

    Bucket seats,  stick shift,  with no console.

    Blue car with black top.   I will post pictures when I get home tomorrow.

    How many 1971 426 Hemi Challengers where made and what are the odds that this one is real?


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    If you didn't look under the hood, did you hear it run? What about the VIN and Fender tag?

    Could it have been a / Slant 6 /   ???
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #21 on: November 12, 2012 - 10:03:42 PM »
    Quote from: skdmark on November 12, 2012 - 08:44:42 PM
    Wasn't there an issue in manufacturing shakers for challengers that caused the dispairity?
    It also never made sense to me that challenger R/T's have rallye gauges standard, but they were an option for the cuda. :dunno:

    Hey it was the 70's. There was no logic back then.   :smokin:

    Obviously, Plymouth marketing and Dodge marketing Divisions never had enough meetings with each other.
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #22 on: November 13, 2012 - 08:44:21 AM »
    the two divisions were competitors, and though I dont know for sure, I would think they never met to discuss marketing.
    And I have always heard the challenger was the more "premium" of the two cars. It was priced slightly higher and had a little more cosmetic bling. And as we all know it enjoyed much better sales than the cuda, though both cars were blown away in sales by the other pony cars. But that is also why the cuda is by far the most rare today of all of them.
    As for the subject of the topic though, we all correctly assume it is a clone, but a very nice looking one, dressed in probably the most popular color too. 
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #23 on: November 14, 2012 - 04:01:13 PM »
    Quote from: 1970 RT Challenger 1970 on November 12, 2012 - 09:09:16 PM

    If you didn't look under the hood, did you hear it run? What about the VIN and Fender tag?

    Could it have been a / Slant 6 /   ???

    Quote from: TorOrange on November 03, 2012 - 08:02:18 PM
    I'm finding that there were no 71 Hemi verts.. You should have looked at the vin  :poopoke:

    Quote from: TinCuda on November 03, 2012 - 08:19:53 PM
    I know but the problem with that is I live in Oklahoma.

    If a car is just "on the street" and not on display at a show, people get real touchy about their cars.

    I took a risk of upsetting the owner by just taking a couple of pictures.


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    I did not hear it run as it was there when I got there and it was there when I left.  I never did find the owner to ask any direct questions.


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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #24 on: November 14, 2012 - 09:17:58 PM »
    Quote from: tommyg29 on November 13, 2012 - 08:44:21 AM
    the two divisions were competitors, and though I dont know for sure, I would think they never met to discuss marketing.
    And I have always heard the challenger was the more "premium" of the two cars. It was priced slightly higher and had a little more cosmetic bling. And as we all know it enjoyed much better sales than the cuda, though both cars were blown away in sales by the other pony cars. But that is also why the cuda is by far the most rare today of all of them.
    As for the subject of the topic though, we all correctly assume it is a clone, but a very nice looking one, dressed in probably the most popular color too.


    Here's what I found just the 70'.

    http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/SalesmansPocketGuides/1970/Pg%20027.jpg

    http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/SalesmansPocketGuides/1970/70_Challenger0001.jpg
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    Re: What are the odds? 1971 426 Hemi Challenger Vert
    « Reply #25 on: November 16, 2012 - 08:52:37 AM »
    So the Chally was about $100 more, or about 3%. The equivalent today of a $1,000 difference on a $30,000 car.
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