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    Offline 1970A66D21

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    Clutch problem
    « on: November 16, 2012 - 04:59:39 PM »
    I am not sure what I did wrong.I put the rear of the car on jack stands to get the back wheels of the floor.When I push the clutch in all the way, in gear,the rear wheels will not turn.The clutch adjuster is almost all the way out.Has a new Ram HDX clutch set.Did I screw up somewhere?
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    Offline 74challenger03

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012 - 05:13:24 PM »
    take off the inspection cover and have someone push the pedal in,see if the clutch fork is moving. Did you replace your throw out bearing?Pressure plate good?
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    Offline Changin Gears

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012 - 05:21:09 PM »


    How much free play is there at the pedal?

    The most common mistake is putting the clutch disc in backwards and the hub gets jammed into to flywheel.
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    Offline 1970A66D21

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012 - 05:33:23 PM »
    The throwout bearing and pressure plate are new.Came as a set with disc.There is no free play.I adjusted the rod out as much as possible and it is barely engaging.Will have one of my boys push on the clutch when they get home from school.I know the clutch fork is moving.The inspection cover is off.I was sure I got the disc in correctly.Now I wonder.On a Ram HDX,it has regular friction material on one side and a more metallic material on the other.Regular friction is on the flywheel side now.
    « Last Edit: November 16, 2012 - 05:37:54 PM by 1970A66D21 »
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    Offline 74challenger03

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012 - 06:30:15 PM »
    why is there two different materials on the disc,reason?  Not trying to sound stupid but you did put the throw out bearing on the right way? Please dont be insulted..
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    Offline 1970A66D21

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012 - 06:48:48 PM »
    Not sure of the reason for 2 different materials.Throwout bearing looks to be installed correct.My wife arrived a little bit ago and I had her step on the clutch.The disc move away from the flywheel.I can barely turn the driveshaft in gear,clutch disengaged.
    The clutch fork has an arch to it.How much is normal?Don't worry,if I installed the clutch set incorrectly,I will insult myself.
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    Offline Changin Gears

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012 - 07:03:40 PM »
    The fork does have about 1/2" of arc.

    Have you tried driving ??
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    Offline 74challenger03

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012 - 07:04:35 PM »
    is the spring hooked on both side of the fork from your throw out bearing?Your fork should not have much of a arch,ask Moparleo or CHRYCO they would know better. Do you have the correct clutch rod? I know on my charger the rod was to short and had to get a new one.That was how I bought it.
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    Offline Changin Gears

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012 - 07:09:36 PM »
    What gear you have it in while trying to turn the driveshaft.  4th would be easiest, 1st hardest.
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    Offline 1970A66D21

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012 - 07:21:30 PM »
    I see what you are getting at.Putting the trans into 4th did not help though.The clutch rod is new and the same length as the old one.
    I would try driving but would hate to have the car lurch forward in gear but pedal pushed.
    « Last Edit: November 16, 2012 - 07:28:15 PM by 1970A66D21 »
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    Offline 1970A66D21

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012 - 08:46:31 PM »
    I have a Ram Power Grip HD clutch set not a HDX.The PGHD has organic material one side,metallic the other side.If any one has used a PGHD,let me know> Thanks
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    Offline Changin Gears

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012 - 10:08:28 PM »
    If you're seeing the disc actually moves away from the flywheel when the clutch is pressed, it's probably put in backwards.  They usually don't move. 
    Is this a diaphragm pressure plate, or borg & beck?  Can you see the clutch hub(where the springs are)?  It should be towards the trans.
    A couple of months ago I put a clutch in my wife's Liberty.  It was interesting, if it was a 4 cylinder the clutch went one way, if it was a six it went the other.
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    Offline 1970A66D21

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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012 - 10:34:28 PM »
    It is a B & B style.I am going to pull the trans this weekend.Maybe the disc is in backwards.I can see the springs though but I did do a no-no.I used the tranny bolts to pull together.I will check bellhousing alignment when it is apart.
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    Re: Clutch problem
    « Reply #13 on: November 16, 2012 - 10:47:29 PM »
    You're right, that is a no-no.

    If you get in that situation again, you can install the clutch linkage with the trans almost in.  Have someone press the clutch pedal to free up the disc, then the trans will slide all the way in.
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    Offline 1970A66D21

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    Tranny removed
    « Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012 - 02:17:18 PM »
    I removed the tranny this morning.Clutch disc was installed correctly..Almost impossible to get it backwards as the flywheel and disc bolts would interfere with each other.The clutch alignment tool slid right in.After I removed the Pressure plate and disc,I tried sliding the disc over the input shaft splines and it would not go on unless I turned the disc around.Of couse that would be the wrong way.
    This would account for the clutch not disengaging.The disc was stuck on the splines.
    Looked at the disc and found the beginning of the splines had a small twist.Took a whet stone and cleaned the up.Slides on easy now.
    « Last Edit: November 17, 2012 - 03:44:09 PM by 1970A66D21 »
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