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Offline moparman82

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door crACK
« on: December 05, 2012 - 01:07:41 PM »
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I have a crack in my passenger door, obviously the result of some shotty body work from the car's past.  Can this be fixed?  Can i just weld it up?  or do i need a new door skin?  Not sure what to do, my car got hailed on so im gettin a free paint job courtesy of State Farm, so i need to get all the non-hail related prep-work done before it goes in.  Thanks guys/gals

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Re: door crACK
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012 - 01:22:04 PM »
The metal isn't cracked.  It looks like there is a thick layer of filler in the door that is cracking off.  It's probably hiding some damage that wasn't fixed.  I think you're going to have to strip the door and see what you have to work with.

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Re: door crACK
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012 - 03:13:07 PM »
The metal isn't cracked.  It looks like there is a thick layer of filler in the door that is cracking off.  It's probably hiding some damage that wasn't fixed.  I think you're going to have to strip the door and see what you have to work with.

Yup.

Some lousy, no talent bondo slinging hack of a body guy slabbed a huge chunk of bondo onto your door. Its now falling off, hence the crack. The door will have to be stripped to see what you have. Since its in the body line, it will probably be hard to repair. Not necessarily impossible, but you'll have to see what's under that blob.

And the really bad news is, if that's how they did the bodywork on the door, its probably how they did the bodywork on the entire car. More of this may be coming.  :banghead:

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Re: door crACK
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012 - 04:19:03 PM »
Yay
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Offline JonS

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Re: door crACK
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012 - 07:00:28 PM »
Wow, that looks like there is a LOT of putty in there.  Please post pictures as you strip the door.

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Re: door crACK
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012 - 09:11:45 PM »
Yay
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Sorry. I was a body guy for awhile, its amazing to me what I found stripping down cars for bodywork and paint. Bodywork is done with hammer and dolly, not a can and a putty knife.

Impossible to say what's under there for metal work, but I'd be willing to bet there's at least a 1/4" of mud on there.

Bondo, the cheap kind, is made with talc. It absorbs water. Over time, the bondo absorbs moisture, swells, and cracks. Left alone long enough, it will even rust out the panel behind it. I always used "metal 2 metal" by evercoat if I needed to use filler. Its aluminum powder based, won't absorb water, can even be drilled and tapped according to evercoat (I would do something else before I did that though). It gets a bad name from people that are used to slinging bondo because its hard to mix (doesn't change colors) and is more difficult to sand because of its hardness. But you'd have to sling bondo to know the difference, so I usually ignore those folks. You shouldn't need to use so much its a problem anyway.

If the body line is seriously damaged under there, it may be easier to re-skin the door. But again, you'll have to strip all that bondo to see what's underneath. You could get lucky, I've stripped a few cars and wondered why there was so much bondo on them after I was done, they were much straighter than the pounds of bondo would lead you to believe.

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Re: door crACK
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012 - 08:49:10 AM »
Yup.

Some lousy, no talent bondo slinging hack of a body guy slabbed a huge chunk of bondo onto your door. Its now falling off, hence the crack. The door will have to be stripped to see what you have. Since its in the body line, it will probably be hard to repair. Not necessarily impossible, but you'll have to see what's under that blob.

And the really bad news is, if that's how they did the bodywork on the door, its probably how they did the bodywork on the entire car. More of this may be coming.  :banghead:
:iagree: Somebody fell for the car in a can in a big way and slopped it on pretty thick. I suspect you may find some rust under all that cracking.

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Re: door crACK
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2012 - 10:27:37 PM »
Remove the interior door panel.  See if there is any noticable damage.
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