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Offline TinCuda

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Dumb Fuel pump question
« on: December 27, 2012 - 03:21:51 AM »
I hate the way I have to crank my engine to fill up my six pack after letting my car set for a week or two.  The engine fires right up after the carbs are filled.

If I install a low pressure electric fuel pump in-line with my mechanical pump, will the mechanical pump by-pass the fuel so it will prime my carbs?

If it won't, can I install an electric pump in parallel after the mechanical pump and not have it back flow through the mechanical pump?

The idea is to have a cheap electric fuel pump just to fill the carbs before engine start and then shut it off and have the engine run on the mechanical pump.

I am really just kind of thinking out loud.  I may end up just installing a good quality electric fuel pump and regulator.

What are your thoughts?


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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012 - 08:33:43 AM »
Was wondering were your gas gos,do you drain it? I had a 440-6pak and the car sat more then anything and didnt have a problem starting it. I would have to change the plugs every year thats about it.Wouldnt the 2 pumps put to much pressure  on the setup?
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012 - 12:27:00 PM »
Was wondering were your gas gos,do you drain it? I had a 440-6pak and the car sat more then anything and didnt have a problem starting it. I would have to change the plugs every year thats about it.Wouldnt the 2 pumps put to much pressure  on the setup?

I am looking at a cheap 6 psi electric pump that I would have a switch just for starting, then turn it off.

Right now if I let the car set a couple of weeks, it takes about 8-10 cranks to get it to fire.  After the first start, the engine will start on the second or third crank.


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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012 - 01:54:35 PM »
I'm going thru the same thing since they started adding Ethanol to our fuel.    :P

I just give it a blast with starting fluid before I try to start it. Usually I'm good to go after the second blast. If I use the car every few days, I have no problems, but let it sit for a couple of weeks, I have a hard time starting it.

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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012 - 05:05:42 PM »
I would ask Chryco or Moparleo sorry I couldnt help.
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012 - 07:35:59 PM »
I've noticed my float bowls down below the sight glass too when left for a couple of weeks. I guess if you figure on a Holley style carb you have 2 , 1/4" vent tubes so evaporation is to be expected? :dunno:
I use an electric fuel pump so it's never an issue?
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012 - 09:55:26 PM »
Yeah, I will probably end up just replacing my mechanical fuel pump with an electric fuel pump.  No sense in messing around.  I need to do this right.

Anyone have a recommendation for what fuel pump to use?



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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012 - 08:25:13 AM »
Yeah, I will probably end up just replacing my mechanical fuel pump with an electric fuel pump.  No sense in messing around.  I need to do this right.

Anyone have a recommendation for what fuel pump to use?



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I'm using a Mallory, regulator and a return line?
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012 - 03:38:54 PM »
I use an electric fuel pump so it's never an issue?
I used to have one but it was toooo noisy! Is your pump relatively quiet? If it is, what kind did you buy Brad (which model Mallory)? I had a Carter 20 years ago and I found the whine annoying. So I went back to mechanical.
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012 - 06:20:40 PM »
I used to have one but it was toooo noisy! Is your pump relatively quiet? If it is, what kind did you buy Brad (which model Mallory)? I had a Carter 20 years ago and I found the whine annoying. So I went back to mechanical.

Ya I hear ya on the noise. I had a Holley pump on my bb Buick and it drove me nuts . The Mallory is much quieter. CP140 says part # 4140 on the box.
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2012 - 03:30:37 AM »
I remove the air filter top and prime the front barrels with a tablespoon or so of gas.  She fires up on the first crank.  Otherwise I would be cranking and pumping the pedal for way too long.
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2012 - 10:51:58 AM »
I remove the air filter top and prime the front barrels with a tablespoon or so of gas.  She fires up on the first crank.  Otherwise I would be cranking and pumping the pedal for way too long.
I had to do the same thing if mine sat for more than a few days.  It would fire up on the first crank that way, but it just got to be too annoying to have to do that pretty much every time I waned to take it out, so I finally broke down and put in an electric pump.  It is a bit noisy (Holley), but it doesn't bother me, and it fires right up no matter how long it sits.  An added benefit was a smoother idle.

I think the problem varies from car to car.  My father in law has a 69 Bee with a 440-6 and mechanical pump, and it fires right up every time.

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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2012 - 11:57:33 PM »
Ya I hear ya on the noise. I had a Holley pump on my bb Buick and it drove me nuts . The Mallory is much quieter. CP140 says part # 4140 on the box.

I know the electric pump should be back by the gas tank, where exactly did you mount your fuel pump and regulator?


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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
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Re: Dumb Fuel pump question
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012 - 09:51:59 AM »
Generally the fuel pump mounts above the diff & the reg under hood on or near the engine

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