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Offline Jamiez

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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2013 - 08:39:06 PM »
Where are these mysterious extra pins on the K frame, can someone circle them?  I'll see if the 1974 manuals say anything about them.  But with only the 74 documents, I have nothing to compare it too




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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2013 - 08:46:06 PM »
go to reply #29 and look at brad's photobucket album.

The first picture in the album has a full pic of the K.
On the bottom left of the picture just under the motor mount you can see the metal bending upwards.
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2013 - 09:24:19 PM »
They are welded on my 74 K frame.
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2013 - 10:00:44 PM »
Where are these mysterious extra pins on the K frame, can someone circle them?  I'll see if the 1974 manuals say anything about them.  But with only the 74 documents, I have nothing to compare it too


This part sticking up beside the motor mount must be a 74 thing? I have no idea as to it's purpose?  Keeps wires away from exhaust?  :dunno:
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2013 - 10:10:16 PM »
74 did get a new part number. There doesn't seem to be anything that attaches to it.  The only thing that is in that area would maybe be the stock exhaust?

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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2013 - 10:23:42 PM »
The car I just took apart was a 74 with roughly 38,000 miles on it.  It was stored beside a home and left to rust.  Nothing was connected to the posts on the k frame.
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2013 - 10:43:33 PM »
Brad, is that welded on or is it bolted on?

So, 73 gets bolted and 74 gets welded?

Weird.   It's a mystery.  Now I really want to know.
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2013 - 11:31:34 PM »
I looked at two 73's tonight.   Neither had the posts.  It must be a late 73 thing.
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2013 - 11:35:22 PM »
So they tapped a hole and bolted them on in late 73 and then for the 74 year they started welding them in. ....?

Sounds right.
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2013 - 06:57:26 AM »
Brad, is that welded on or is it bolted on?

So, 73 gets bolted and 74 gets welded?

Weird.   It's a mystery.  Now I really want to know.

those 2 "things" are welded on?
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2013 - 06:58:05 AM »
I have never found a reason for them to be added to the K frame & they sure get in the way

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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2013 - 06:58:56 AM »
I've never seen them bolted on  :clueless:
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2013 - 07:56:17 AM »
I have never found a reason for them to be added to the K frame & they sure get in the way

Ya I agree. I'd cut them off too. Clearance is scarce in that area especially with a BB. I wonder why/what they are for? Like why did Mopar go to all the trouble to add them ?
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Re: K-Frame Issue???
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2013 - 12:19:24 PM »
I just looked at my 74 K-frame.  I am sure they are reinforcements.  One is for the steering box and one is for the idler arm. The parts that stick up are angled metal to give the rest of the reinforcement piece strength.  It is an odd way to do it.  I guess they did not want to start from scratch with a new K-frame.  Maybe there were warrenty issues with K-frames cracking.  It's possible that there is a TSB about it. 
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Re: K-Frame Issue??? update!
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2013 - 04:17:44 PM »
Hey guys,

Here are some detail pics of the two  "things sticking up" on the 74 K frames.

Drivers side



Looks like it could add support for the motor mount???





Pass side...not really supporting anything???





I cen certainly see cutting these off.

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