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Offline William H Meister

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Can you identify this block?
« on: January 27, 2013 - 01:21:04 PM »
Came accross this block that does not match any of my guides. Can anyone identify it?

Casting #     2468130 * 1

Thanks 

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013 - 01:37:45 PM »
I wonder if it's a 383?  This Ebay auction has the same casting numbers minus the 1 on the end.  :dunno:  Is the distributor in the fron of the block?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/67-MOPAR-383-BLOCK-65-66-69-68-70-71-DODGE-PLYMOUTH-RT-/160646211771?hash=item256742a8bb&item=160646211771&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2013 - 01:39:17 PM »
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013 - 01:40:34 PM »
not sure on the last # but 383 for sure
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2013 - 02:23:33 PM »
It does have the dist. in front. Seller claims its from a 383 Cuda. Thinking about using it in place of my 340?
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2013 - 02:27:26 PM »
You'll have to talk to some people about it but it may not be worth the effort.  If you want a big block, I would go with the 440.  Just that there a re a number of things you have to do to go from small block too big block and with a 383, unless it's built up, stock form the 383 cars supposedly were not much faster than the 340 cars and you suffer in the handling department with the big block engine.  :2cents:

Perhaps others will chime in or you can start a new post, "340 vs 383 engine swaps: is it worth it?"
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Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013 - 02:28:24 PM »
The numbers after the casting number is the number of time the casting has been updated, changed or repaired.  Really has no value to the blocks worth.
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2013 - 02:33:00 PM »
You'll have to talk to some people about it but it may not be worth the effort.  If you want a big block, I would go with the 440.  Just that there a re a number of things you have to do to go from small block too big block and with a 383, unless it's built up, stock form the 383 cars supposedly were not much faster than the 340 cars and you suffer in the handling department with the big block engine.  :2cents:

Perhaps others will chime in or you can start a new post, "340 vs 383 engine swaps: is it worth it?"

Phil has a good point.... transmission , suspension are other things to consider.
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2013 - 03:22:40 PM »
Phil has a good point.... transmission , suspension are other things to consider.

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013 - 06:07:33 PM »
... unless it's built up, stock form the 383 cars supposedly were not much faster than the 340 cars and you suffer in the handling department with the big block engine.  :2cents:

Complete barstool racing, but I think a 340 6-pack would be close to a 383 2-barrel.  340 4-barrel vs 383 magnum doesn't seem very close when you factor in big block heads, big block bore, etc.  That being said, aluminum heads, water pump, and intake get you to the factory 340 weight.
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2013 - 06:12:54 PM »
hahaha barstool racing!  I love it!
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013 - 09:56:43 PM »
Ok, keep in mind I have no idea if the onfo is true or not and also the test drivers back in the day may not have been all equal as some say the test drive cars were "tuned" by the factory to give better than average performance compared to a model off the dealer lot so the car looked better in the magazines...  :dunno:

Also keep in mind this is an AAR compared to a 383 Cuda.  Different sources so it might be like comparing apples to oranges.  Also, this is in stock form, which many of these cars are no longer.  :2cents:



http://www.angelfire.com/md3/cuda_corner/hist2.html

"The `Cuda was a popular test car in 1970. Road Test magazine put a 383-powered `Cuda through its paces. With a Torqueflight automatic transmission and a Sure Grip 3.91:1 rear end, the car did the quarter mile in 14.40 seconds at 98.87 mph. Car Craft tested a Hemi`Cuda with four speed manual transmission and a 3.54:1 Sure Grip rear axle. This car did the quarter mile in 13.10 seconds at over 107 mph. Motor Trend got behind the wheel of a 440 6-barrel `Cuda with the same axle setup as the Hemi car had and did the quarter mile in 14.44 seconds at 99.88 mph, but others recorded better times."

http://www.ehow.com/list_7532176_specifications-1970-aar-cuda.html

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The AAR Cuda in stock form returned quarter-mile times of 14.4 sec. at 98.4 mph. The car returned 0-60 mph times of 6.0 seconds. Top speed was estimated at 137 mph. In handling tests, the car returned .76 g's of lateral force on the skid-pad."



1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013 - 12:19:37 PM »
Thanks for all the input. I will stick w/ my 340.

Bill

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013 - 12:34:00 PM »
good call, 340's are great, slap in a stroker kit and some nice aluminum heads and you will hit 500hp on pump gas, and be light!
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013 - 01:53:06 PM »
lots of work, but I love my little big block  :stirpot: