Can you identify this block?

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Offline Super Blue 72

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013 - 11:43:31 PM »
Here's a nice little read on the 340, and a quote from their text.  How true it is, I dunno.  But it sound cool!  8) Maybe I have big block envy?  :P

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/mopar340.html

"The 340 cars gave away nothing to the 383 cars in a straight line, and were ahead of the 383 cars on anything involving turns — and spark plug access."

1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2013 - 05:50:57 PM »
I would stay with your 340 as well.  But I will say that back in the 70's my Roadrunner with a fully built 383 never lost to a 440 or 340 car (never raced a Hemi), 454 & 396 Chevelles, Camaros & Novas, 351C or 428 CJ Mustangs or one very strong Buick GS 455.  Not once.  I did lose one time to a built 350 Nova SS when my stock Carter AVS 'coughed' off the line which it was prone to do and the Nova was too fast for my car to overtake after losing all the RPM at launch.  I did have the last laugh though because the Nova driver couldn't let me re-run him due to the fact he blew his engine and had to have me give him a ride back to town!   :grinyes:

So 383's weren't bad motors, they just struggle to compete with the modern strokers based on 400 & 440's today.  At least that's what most people say.

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2013 - 10:53:12 AM »
  I did have the last laugh though because the Nova driver couldn't let me re-run him due to the fact he blew his engine and had to have me give him a ride back to town!   :grinyes:


 :smilielol:  :roflsmiley:  :smilielol:  That is just too funny!!!!!!!  :grinyes:
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2013 - 03:08:19 PM »
When my car was about six months old the owner raced it at Connecticut Dragway and pulled 14.19, bone stock with the original bias tires. He won his class and I still have the NHRA "Class Winner" sticker on the drivers window. He ordered the 340 specifically to have a good handling performance car. I think the 340 is the best small block engine ever made during the muscle era - sorry Chevy guys!

I would stay with your 340 as well.  But I will say that back in the 70's my Roadrunner with a fully built 383 never lost to a 440 or 340 car
A friend bought a beater '68 Roadrunner 383 off a used car lot for $400 - we raced one beery night - we were dead even, I was shocked at how well that 'Runner ran!
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2013 - 07:34:33 PM »
I think the 340 is the best small block engine ever made during the muscle era - sorry Chevy guys!

I've owned three 340 powered Mopars over the years and I was always surprised at how well they ran given their inherient design handicaps. Handicaps? Yeah, the little 340 has a few. With only four head-bolts per cylinder we use to ocassionally have cylinder sealing problems when running really big compression. That same four head-bolt per cylinder arrangement created those ill-flowing "porkchop" shaped exhaust ports on the center two cylinders too (thank goodness for the W series heads). Then there is that screwy valve train geometry that has all sorts of angles between the lifter, pushrod, and rocker arm - nothing lines up at all! I read somewhere that when Mother Mopar designed the "new" LA engine in "64 they kept the same cam lobe separation angles from the "old" poly-headed A engine and that's why the lifters don't line up with the pushrods and hence the pushrods not lining up with the rocker arms.

When they were using the small block for Pro-Stock in '79 and '80 they would literally have to cut the lifter valley out of the engine, weld it back in at an angle that aligned the lifters with the pushrods, and then use a custom cam with the new lobe separation angles. Pretty extreme modifications but necessary to correct that goofy valve train geometry.

Don't get me wrong, I love the 340, and I ran with some guys who could make their 340's screaming giant killers. It's just that "back in the day" the 340 was fighting with a design handicap and I often wondered how much better that engine could have been with a little better engineering from Ma Mopar.
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2013 - 03:45:19 PM »
Interesting perspective on the 340! I never modded my 340's much beyond a hotter cam and bigger carb so I never ran into issues like that in about 100,000 miles of beating the crap out of them.
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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2013 - 10:31:52 PM »
Interesting hearing about the times that those big blocks turned. My 72 Duster 340, 4 spd with a 3:55 SG and a set of traction bars would run 14.2 @ 98mph all day long. Run it up to 5000 and walk off the clutch. AND it was a low compression engine that year! You've got it right- stick with the small block. Have fun!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Can you identify this block?
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2013 - 02:27:31 AM »
Interesting hearing about the times that those big blocks turned. My 72 Duster 340, 4 spd with a 3:55 SG and a set of traction bars would run 14.2 @ 98mph

I'm interested in hearing some lap time comparisons  :bigsmile:


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